Going off on a tangent; another reason that we should hold back from labelling the Chinese as devious liars-news is filtering through that major British food outlets have been palming customers off with up to 40% horsemeat in beefburgers-we are talking about Tesco(now all over China) as the main offender. No, you stay in China, Foxy, they tend to be more honest and transparent than in the UK, now am I right or am I right?

I didn't know that Tesco had been up to dirty tricks of that nature. That's very bad. One would have expected Chinese retailers to be up to that kind of fraudulent activity. It seems Western retailers can't be trusted either. I'm living in a county of Hohhot. There are no western supermarkets local to me, not that I need them. It's convenient for me to go downtown by bus, but it can take up to 2 hours though it only costs 1 RMB. I seldom venture downtown. For those of you who know Hohhot, I live within 3 minutes on foot of that magnificent Gothic golden-spired Gong Da building of the Electric University.

I don't think China is more honest than the UK. Chinese people often tell many lies, but they're not good at doing so. The British tell less lies as a rule, but they may expect to get away with fobbing off people with obvious insincere bull. That's bad culture that reflects unjustified arrogance.