Dragonized: I find Mancunian quite classy, his posts are most of the time very sophisticated, "old Europe" style.

You mean the old Europe style of hypocrisy as exhibited by that of the clowns and connivers so thoroughly depicted in the classical novels, short stories, and plays including that written by Shakespeare, Moliere, Maupassant, Balzac, and Chekhov? No, this poster does an average job pretending he can be up this as far as I can tell. You need more life experience if you want to see really bad people. People who need pity from others don't always beg for it, they will annoy you and try to talk bad things about others that they themselves possess quite thoroughly.

The two of you remind me of the Cadillac STS ads on American TV some 4-5 years ago where you have a most elegant "old Europe" ballroom with gilded wood panels on the walls and with crystal chandeliers reflecting in the shining marble floors. Suddenly a bad ass Cadillac STS comes to the ballroom very fast, turns very fast, and screeches to a halt, making the chandeliers above swing slightly.

I fail to see this comparison as being "classy", no offense. Although I would like to find this commercial on youtube now for my own amusement. I would like to help and make good contributions, and that starts with my own honesty. But if you just want to sit back and enjoy the show so to speak you don't exactly inspire trust with knowing what classy is or is not. I do hope you mean well, the previous statement was just my own opinion.