Since, according to you, your previous and lengthy posting was somehow mysteriously "lost in the shuffle," I can help you!

Here is the post in its entirety, and my response:

To Yi and others re Chuck - Teachers Discussion
Posted By: DB
Date: 1 September 2006

I've been kicking back for quite awhile now and observing the "Chuck Bashing," and frankly I've grown rather weary of it all. In my opinion, it's irrelevant if Chuck is John or the Queen of Sheba. Both Chuck and John or Chuck/John have had some meaningful things to say and I've enjoyed his posts even when I don't always agree with him or when I'm not entirely sure where he's coming from - be it a position of neutrality or one of fair mindedness. Whether you agree with him or not doesn't alter the fact that his postings are filled with the insight that comes from experience and observation. Personally, I feel that he is wise to offer up the other side of some issues, and is perhaps a little chagrinned that some of you so readily attack his points.

A wise man once observed that, in the context of interpersonal communication wherein one hopes to achieve the underlying goal of mutual understanding, inquiry beats the hell out of accusation. Give it a try folks.

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Interesting... - Teachers Discussion
Posted By: Frank <greenfrank54@yahoo.com>
Date: 1 September 2006

In Response To: To Yi and others re Chuck - Teachers Discussion (DB)

It seems to me, DB (and by the way, you are also "KJ" are you not?) that you've not been on the receiving end of one of Chuck's "bashings." If you had been, perhaps you'd feel differently.

I think it IS RELEVANT and it DOES MATTER if he is posting under several names (like some people) because it certainly erodes any credibility his arguments might have in my eyes.

If you recall, "Dave" wrote a glowing tribute to "John," only to have me prove later that "Dave" actually IS "John." (Now, Chuck.) This schizophrenic episode of self-adoration came from someone who repeatedly told me that I had no credibility and was a liar!

Chuck/John/Dave/Dave John/Bucky brings a whole new dimension to the phrase "Preaching to the choir!"

Personally, I find almost nothing about this guy to be neutral or fair-minded." Quite the opposite.

I might have taken on Chuck/Dave/John numerous times, but I've never stooped to the chronic name-calling, superior posturing, and veiled accusations that Chuck/John/Dave, etc., has engaged in.

If that is your idea of "a position of neutrality or one of fair mindedness" then may the two of you "discuss" all the pressing FT in China issues at hand "fair-mindedly," and the let the rest of us who actually try to support each other "kick back" for a while. Because I too, have grown "weary of it all"!!!