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#1 Parent Raoul Duke - 2008-04-02
Re: Shijaizhuang Railway Institute

Not quite sure who you're responding to here.

I certainly didn't and don't expect China to have all that many entertainment venues for us...but a lot of people come here not really tinking through the prospect of having an awful lot of time to fill and limited numbers of people with whom to fill it. Some cope well with this; some don't.

Cities vary in any country. Some are cleaner, prettier, friendlier, and/or more interesting than others. China is just the same.
And in my humble opinion, without any undue negativity intended, Shijiazhuang ranks pretty low on the list.

#2 Parent Wilhelm - 2008-04-01
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What a riveting debate. That's why I'm leaving Korea because of all the negativity that I hear from Foreign teachers. The fact is people take advantage of people where ever you go. The more desperate their situation is, the more likely it is to happen. I imagine a secondary city in China, with an influx of migrant workers is a place where that can happen.
Having said that I was taken advantage of by Target, who cheated me a paycheck when I worked for them in high school, and I was harassed by a bully of a boss at Home Depo while in college. Still I'm not negative about my country, and I'm not going to let a few nasty or desperate people make me feel negative about any other country either. I've met plenty of mean spirited, xenophobic people in Korea and I've also met many open minded, kind people. In fact, I've even met kind, xenophobic people, and mean, open minded people. I believe part of our role as ESL teachers is to break down cultural stereotypes, not to create our own ones.
Please people stop focusing on the negative, stop harassing people for being positive, and for goodness sake, stop expecting a country that has 5000 years of culture to have more entertainment venues sutiable for bored foreigners. What does that mean anyway? I don't have the same hobbies as my Canadian or British colleagues. I didn't choose to live in a different country so I could eat Burger King, go to the cinema and do tequila slammers while hitting on babes in a nightclub. I came to gather an insight into this part of the world and an insight into myself by not having my culture cocooning me. I'm so happy I ditched my colleagues in Korea that first week. 10 months later I can read and write hangul, speak elementary Korean, cook several delicous Korean dishes. I also have a black belt in tae kwon do, and have hiked all over this beautiful country. I'm not bragging I'm just showing you what positive thinking and accepting a foreign culutre can bring to you.
Best of luck people, best of luck...

#3 Parent Choatle - 2008-04-01
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Wise man is not wise, despite his name. He speaks in broad sweeping generalities, and thinks because he is speaking optimistically that this somehow makes him a sage. Sorry but it just doesn't work that way.

Regardless of what this non-realist says, some people will have problems despite how nice they are, in fact often because of it. It's called the real world, and the nice guy doesn't finish last for no reason. No, in the real world there are bad people everywhere, and despite how well you comport yourself, those bad people will still be around. Just be careful and realize that, this is China, your an outsider, and you don't know the rules. Learn them quick, and you should be ok. Don't believe the very unwise nonsense coming from unwise man though, his vague general way of speaing will get you into a lot of trouble if you choose to believe it.

#4 Parent Raoul Duke - 2008-03-31
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It's not necessarily the people themselves that are hostile to foreigners...most are indeed nice enough. Some places in the hinterlands of China, though, are not quite as far removed from the Cultural Revolution bad old days. Here, school administrations, government bureaus, and so on can make life a lot more uncomfortable and be a lot more suspicious in its attitudes toward foreign workers.

People who don't look down on Chinese CAN have problems here. It happens all the time. This is not exactly a nation of saints....

As for boring...it's all in what you make it. For many foreigners who come to China, about the only reliable entertainment they can find are bars, DVDs, and possibly girls. A lot of expats here would KILL for a good conversation in real English. Most TV, movies in theatres, books, newspapers, and other such accustomed diversions will be incomprehensible if you aren't pretty salty in Chinese. Places like Shijiazhuang just don't offer much for foreigners to do.

Some people can keep their spirit of adventure alive and have fun in such environments. Many more just start feeling isolated, lonely, and bored there and can't wait to get out. Which kind you are...you can only judge for yourself.

I started my time in China in more remote, isolated cities before moving to places that had more people to talk to and things to do. In the big picture it was a fascinating experience, but a lot of the actual hours were pretty dull. I'm glad I started out there in "The Real China", because I can't imagine ever going back there now.

#5 Parent wise man - 2008-03-26
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If you don`t look down on Chinese, you won`t have problems in China. People are friendly and nice with foreigners almost everywhere. Shijiazhuang is the capital city of Hebei province. You won`t be the only foreigner there. Some years ago, I taught in Inner Mongolia, Hunan and Jiangxi with only 5-7 foreigners in the same town. Even so, it was not boring. But if you speak some Chinese, you will get a lot of friends at school and among locals.
The cost of living is not high in China. You will spend 1000-1200RMB/month in a city like Shijiazhuang.

#6 Parent Les - 2008-03-26
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I worked in Shijiazhuang for more than 2years and for Shijiazhuang Railway Institute from 2005 to 2006. They were very nice. No problem with salary. We worked as a family at that time with 4 foreign teachers. I am now working in Suzhou - Jiangsu. You can reach me on +86 15895413713 or esl_teacher2008@yahoo.com for more info.

#7 Parent Wilhelm - 2008-03-26
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I can handle the pollution and I don't mind the boardom as I'm looking for a contract that isn't too time consuming so I can sink my teeth into studying Chinese. I'm not really one for drinking and complaining with other expats.
What is the cost of living there? I'm assuming it's considerably cheaper than Beijing or Shanghai.
The one thing that raises my concern however is the city being hostile to foreigners. I know how some foreign teachers can act and sometimes hostility from locals is warranted. A drunk idiot is a drunk idiot, regardless of where they're from or where they are, as far as I'm concerned. Is the hostility reactionary or is it something you'll encounter when you are minding your own business? Could you give me some examples please?
Thank you very much for your reply.

#8 Parent Raoul Duke - 2008-03-25
Re: Shijaizhuang Railway Institute

I don't know the school, but know enough about Shijiazhuang to be able to say you might want to consider not going there. Polluted, ugly, dirty, boring, and often rather hostile to foreigners. It's not quite the bottom of the barrel, but it's getting close.

Wilhelm - 2008-03-25
Shijaizhuang Railway Institute

Has anyone worked at Shijiazhuang Railway Institute? I've been offered a job there and they seem very nice. It's my first job in China, so I'm just wondering if anyone could share thier experience there, or thier experience in Shijiazhuang?

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