Corbin that is perhaps the dumbest thing you have said so far, and that's saying something. That's like saying people who are anti nukes aare as bad as people that are for nukes, or people who are anti terrorism or anti death penalty are just as bad. Wow, your a real dullard.

Do let's keep in mind that Choatle would find it very difficult to get hired by a reputable university and/or college; therefore, his observations are based solely on his experience with private institutions. Said institutions are staffed mainly by backpack teachers, non-degree holders and misfits who are not qualified to teach elsewhere. When they do manage to find a legitimate position, it's only because they've fallen through the cracks and only managed to stay employed until they're proven by their incompetence in the classroom to be the charlatans that they really are, or when the PSB discovers that they've pulled the wool over the eyes of administrators who's need to satisfy the growing demands for English teachers causes them to temporarily ignore their lack of qualifications.

One needs only examine Choatle's inability to use the simplest of English to realize the truth of the above and that the only, perhaps, suitable employment for her in China is as an Oral English teacher in a pretend English school. Can you imagine her teaching writing at a university? Please.

As for my own self esteem, Choatle, I will measure it by the feedback I get from students and administrators and by the ever increasing amount of responsibilities and pay given me as recognition of my conscientiousness as a teacher and guide to the students at our college. Let your imagination run wild as you cast your dispersions on myself and others; perhaps it somehow diminishes the painful awareness you must deal with as your own incompetence grows more and more obvious to yourself and those around you.

Thanks for the well written post, Corbin; moreover, thanks for keeping it simple and to the point. If you'll check out the archives here, you'll find that the turnip (Turnoi) and his followers, Choatle and the toddler (Silverboy), don't confine their nay saying and sweeping statements in that regard to only schools. They also attack the students, the Chinese education system in general and Chinese teachers and administrators. Interestingly, but revealingly, they do so without offering solutions of any kind. Nor are they capable of seeing the system as a work in progress and are equally incapable of recognizing how far China has come in such a short amount of time.
Truthfully, there are many schools in China where your skills, as obviated by your writing and your positive attitude, would be highly appreciated, and where you would be treated kindly and fairly. My advice would be to contact universities directly. Generally, the route you'll need to take is to first contact the IED (International Education Department) of whichever university you'd be interested in. You can narrow the field by doing a little research to determine in which part of China you'd like to teach. Climate, population etc. are of course important things to consider; however, perhaps even more important is the level of sophistication reached by the local population - even that, though, is a matter of personal preference.
After nearly five years in China and some very rewarding experiences, socially as well as vocationally, I've pretty much settled on West China as my personal choice. But then, I'm not really fond of big cities.
Well, I'd like to provide you with more information, but unfortunately, I've got to head off to my afternoon classes at a college where I've been treated quite well while teaching students that are a joy and a pleasure to be around. If you have any further questions, I'll be happy to get back to you later.
Good luck, Corbin. Ignore the nay sayers - they serve no real purpose other than self aggrandizement. Unfortunately, their all encompassing negativity can possibly convince those who could make a positive difference, such as yourself, from coming here.

Seriously, you're just as bad as Zhang and recruiters except that you act as an anti-recruiter. If you can't stand the esl scene in China why are you still there?

Trying to call yourself and silverboy, etc "realist"s? Come on now. The majority of music is bad, do you say all music is bad? The majority of movies are bad, do you say all movies are bad? Hell, the majority of schools in America are bad, do you say that people shouldn't go to school?

Just because there are many Chinese English schools that are run by corrupt money grubbers, does not mean that all of them are that way. I have never taught English in China (in fact I am senior on my way to getting my Bachelors degree and I'm looking into teaching English abroad for a few years), but I have faith that there are some directors, owners, etc. of these English schools that actually care about the students and set up the schools because they see a need for the new generations to learn English to live and work in the growing global economy.

The reason people speak out against you is not because you criticize the bad schools, but because you say that all schools are bad, case in point the Japanese school that someone had a bad experience with you automatically said "Welcome to China and her "excellent" ESL industry! But if you are a serious teacher and are really interested in education - stay away!". Good call on that one *sarcasm*. Really though, if you hate it so much why are you over there? If the good schools aren't the norm, why don't you recommend some good ones so that if a person does want to teach in China they'll know one to apply to?

Finally... are you serious? Attacking someone else's grammar? How juvenile are you? Also, here's a tip. If you want to attack someone on something make sure you don't make a mistake in your own post - "The Nirvana is far and somewhere and not easy to grasp" According to proper English grammar , it should be "The Nirvana is far and somewhere not easy to grasp". Also, it would be even more proper to say "not easily grasped", there should also be a comma after grasp, but who's splitting hairs? In any case, learn how to use conjunctions.

By the way, I'm not a recruiter or anything of the sort, just someone who's interested in finding a good school to teach at, you're not helping anyone with your posts but yourself.