It's good to see decent schools are found in China... It is common knowledge that even the best names or schools someone at the top closes his / her eyes.. That rule applies at my college - close your eyes and pass everyone... The pain is almost over and the jet is warming up it's engine !

http://www.edu.gov.mb.ca/k12/iep/aff_schools.html

Pretty elaborate lie, then.

I think making fun of children who post on here is kind of poor form, but, if they're willing to post, I guess it's fair game. Students who graduate from the International Program, do so with a Manitoban diploma. They need to have a foreign passport to enrol and continue on to universities overseas. There's another department that enrols local Chinese students. Most of these students continue studies in local universities, though some study overseas.

Clifford School hires certified teachers to teach in both the Bilingual and International Programs and pays Western salaries to do that. Personally, I'm making over 40,000USD a year plus a 12.5% bonus. There are mostly Manitoban certified teachers in the International Program, but other departments hire from the US, Australia, the UK and other countries. They have a little over 100 Western teachers, 200 Chinese teachers, and 3,500 students (K-12). The Western teachers tend to stay between 3-4 years, but there is a number of teachers who have been working here much longer than that.

While what I just wrote is fact, this part is opinion - I like teaching at Clifford School. The administration is supportive. I get paid well. The gated community we live in (Clifford Estates - hence the name "Clifford School") is a good place to live - as is Guangzhou. My work is relatively stress free and the students are nice - unless, of course, you ridicule their school on an anonymous message board! :)

You’ve written a lot but little to go on with for a teacher. Wondering how some teachers have got their jobs there suggests that you are a pro evaluator; however, your poor approach to communicating your message demonstrates you should have listened to those teachers more. Your indication that the school’s international program has been linked to Manitoba program, or higher educational institutions in the province, may only prove that “someone” sponsors this Guangzhou operation. Your signal that the participation is low conveys the idea that this outlet, just like many such places on mainland China, is infamous. Agreeably, we all should be very careful about choosing job or studying opportunities in the country.
Cheers and beers to the skillful graduated poster :)

Clifford and the great Clifford Pang...First of all, let me answer your question since I personally lived at Clifford Estates in Area A which is the newer section of the ex-pat area where Clifford is based at. The area itself is wonderful and the school looks great. I did not work there and usually they only hire Canadians. However I do know many students from Clifford personally because I was employed in GZ in business and the business I worked at had many foreign families and several of their kids went to Clifford only because Clifford is cheaper than AIG which is the American International School at GZ. The international side of the house only has about...50 students or so. The rest of the school is on the Chinese program which as you know, anywhere in China is a failed exercise. I believe that their total student population is about 2000 I have been told that the Canadian principal is an idiot by most of the students. I have been told about some assaults on students by their security guards that require them to show ID when exiting campus but not when entering. I have been told that many of their teachers do very little for the students. I have also been told that a few teachers there are "OK". I can tell you that many students there attend after school cram courses because they believe they are not getting an education there. I can tell you that many of the students there are Korean and their parents usually work in textiles or jewelery businesses. As far as I know there is very little difference pound for pound between the bilingual and the international side. You should also know that there is more than one school there owned by Clifford. They also have a school for smaller kids on the other side of the property. I call tell you that everything is expensive as hell at Clifford. I can tell you that the free buses there are useful but that if you want to do any running around at Clifford you need a bike or a scooter because it is a very large area. Oliver's, a foreign store there is excellent! They have anything you could imagine. But you will pay through the nose for it too. I can tell you that hospital at Clifford looks great inside and that it is nearly the same as a western hospital but that it is super expensive and once you are inside, except for Dr. Christian, an American, no one there has a clue. Go work for AIG instead.

all you say is BULLSHIT,MOTHER[edited]

Don't let the looks of a school like Clifford School fool you. Watch out for the administration, parents and students there. They are, with a few exceptions, not worth working with or for. Opt for a better place or go there at your own risk.

I know many students from Clifford, most of which are Korean. They attend the bi-lingual program. I have heard absolutely nothing from them other than how bad the school is, how lame the Canadian teachers are, and how badly the school is run.

Korean students in China, what do they know? A bunch of spoiled brats seeking scapegoats for their poor academic performances, if you ask me!

I have spoken to a few of the foreign teachers from Clifford at the local Clifford shopping areas and thus far, from what I have seen are dressed up back packers without a clue. The hiring standard and practices at Clifford must be really low from what I have seen thus far after speaking with a few of their so-called "teachers". I have heard the wages are very low.

Backpackers with at least proper Western university degrees, by the way! Otherwise they couldn't obtain work visas for the purpose of teaching in China. What's more, I doubt the wages at Clifford School are very low for foreign teachers, as you say. A friend of mine teaching in Guangdong, but not at an international school, has loads of spare time to enjoy himself spending his salary, and thinks he's well-paid for what he does, unlike the overworked, strapped-for-cash teachers in the West!

I own my own home here at Clifford Estates and so my housing is quite nice as is the local area. However, with the high costs associated with living and shopping at Clifford, and the low wages that Clifford Pang (owner and developer of Clifford Estates) pays, I cannot imagine anyone seriously considering working there myself.

It seems you're out of touch with what teachers by and large think of their salaries here in China.

These posts are full of so much BS!!!!!!!!!!! I would believe they are by one person who has had some bad experience, and probably a person who was inexperienced and couldn't cope!
I am a very experienced teacher and Clifford is a good school to work at now - after changes to curriculum and expectations of teachers it has become a lot more professional, thanks to the Western Administration.
I enjoy the school, the parents, the kids, the whole lot!!!!!!!!!!!!
Don't listen to all this nonsense, some people just hold grudges and try to satisfy themselves by hurting others.
The estate is a great place to live, everything here - good hospital, shopping, food, etc.... Not best paying school, compared to international schools, but it's not an international school. Much better conditions and package than most Chinese schools, universities, etc, however expect a little more responsibility than just your 25 hours a week - but nowhere near as much as a full international school!!
Great place to work, see China and save! A good 3 to 5 year job (or longer if you like it)!
Check it out for youself!!!!!!!!

I am glad that I do not seem to be the only one who had a less than desirable experience at Clifford School in China. Let me start out with the things I liked about it. Most of my colleagues have been pretty cool enough, and the school facilities are not too bad. The housing is quite nice, too. Though I have heard many stories directly from other staff about how other students at Clifford School can be nothing short of little hellions, my own students were mostly okay. Now, let me talk about the bad.

我很高兴我并不是唯一一个在中国祈福英语试验学校有着失望经历的人.让我以一些我喜欢的事情开始.大多数同事都不错,学校的设施也挺好的.房子非常的好.尽管我的一些同事说有些学生简直是小捣蛋,但是我的学生大本分都还不错.现在让我来告诉你不好的部分.

Clifford School in Panyu also has several major problems. The biggest one is the administration and parents. The administration has serious problems. I dont even want to go into that. The parents are the same way; they often do more harm than good. This combination pushes a lot of really excellent teachers and students alike out of the school. These two factors alone are so significant that they negate pretty much everything else Clifford School offers.

番禺祈福英语学校主要有这样几个问题.最大的问题就是他们的管理领导和家长.他们的管理有着很严肃的问题.我都不想谈那些.家长也一样,他们经常做一些不好的事情.这些问题促使很多好的老师和学生离开了学校.这两个主要的问题很重要掩盖了很多好的部分.

If I had kids I certainly would not send them to Clifford School. I cannot in good conscience advise others to work there, either. There are much better schools both in Guangzhou and China as a whole. If you are able, please seek them out and avoid teaching or sending your kids here.

如果我有孩子,我绝对不会把孩子送到祈福英语学校读书的.我也不会建议其他人到那里工作.在中国广州有很多好的学校.如果有可能,请避免到这里教学或者送你的孩子到那里上学.

I am writing a review of Clifford School in Guangzhou, China and one of its assistant principals there, [edited]. The school itself has a nice building and many nice staff members. The parents can be out of control "helicopter parents," and the administration lets them get away with far too much. On certain days they allow the parents to videotaope everything. Many of them come equipped with phones, video camera, the works. Some of them are nice, but when you try to do nice things for them, they just want more and more. There is seldom, if ever, an "enough." Many of them are simply never satisfied.
Many of the students there at Clifford School are sweet enough. A lot of the students fight, hit and punch others all the time. It's not worth the headache to ever work at that school.

Since Clifford School has a very high turnover rate, new teachers are often in as soon as they are out. It's not a good school to have your children educated at. One of their administrators, [edited], is not a bad guy. He's just not an effective communicator and holds grudges against people like you would not believe. I have seen him do that with many others, and I don't doubt that he still does it. It is unfortunate that he never really sees his own faults very often. You don't want to work under him or with him. I worked with him two years ago when he first started but hear from others that he still has not changed.

STAY AWAY FROM CLIFFORD SCHOOL IN GUANGZHOU, CHINA!!!