Tom
- 2011-02-02
Ok, maybe our experiences are different, but will everyone's be the same, even in the UK? Some Chinese friends I knew who went to the UK to study hated it, they told me it is a very parochial and racist place, others including one girl I knew who married a guy in Newcastle loved it and had nothing but praise for British life, so I guess it is swings and roundabouts??!!
I will concede to that, you have made some good points. Going off on a slight tangent, I find it really annoying when the odd FT has had a good experience at a crappy school like York School but completely disregards the plight of other FT's, probably the majority-they then go on to writing posts (like pretend Tom in this thread) saying what a lot of ill-informed bitchers we all are and what a fine school 'tis.
It is actually possible to have a good time with a bad employer, you could be one of twenty or more FT's working for the same outfit-quite by chance you are given a good flat where by good fortune everything works-more good luck follows, they send you to teach their only reasonable classes. They forget to fiddle you. So, your experience is totally different to that of the other 19 teachers.
I have been in the situation of being one or two of the lucky FT's employed by a bad school but I never took the 'I'm alright Jack' selfish stance. I mean, when we attack rubbish outfits like York, you don't see twenty or more of their teachers offering posts of support-one or two maybe, laced by fake ones written by the Chinese bosses or their lackeys, in English that clearly hasn't been written by a Brit or an American whatever.
Shame on these "I'm alright Jack FT's.
Yep baijiu won't do you any good.
occasional guttersnipe
- 2011-02-02
Yep, agreed. When required to go down to gutter level, as your dishonest bosses have done with you, don't hesitate to do so, and use four-letter words in abundance to make your points! That's the only way to make them understand how you feel about them while making them lose face. As for fsce, we, as foreigners needn't care about losing it!
Bullring
- 2011-02-02
I'm sure you are actually referring to the Chinese that have had the biggest influence on your life in China, the people who run and work in these sub-stand outfits, like York school-thoroughly bad scum of the earth types; however, most of the population I find belong to salt of the earth types. One of the reasons I travel by train in China is that i really enjoy talking to the ordinary folk, thoroughly nice well-rounded people who will give you the shirt off their back- not tricky or underhand in any way, like the York School mobsters. Their food tastes like shite but they are okay. Let the train take the strain-good for chatting up university studentesses to boot. No if you get out there and talk to ordinary folk, even migrant works, it'll make your Chinese experience much richer.Read more: http://www.eslteachersboard.com/cgi-bin/review/index.pl?read=34647#ixzz1Cmvnhewf
Ok, maybe our experiences are different, but will everyone's be the same, even in the UK? Some Chinese friends I knew who went to the UK to study hated it, they told me it is a very parochial and racist place, others including one girl I knew who married a guy in Newcastle loved it and had nothing but praise for British life, so I guess it is swings and roundabouts??!!
FYI, I never worked in training centres, except part time at a kindergarten at weekends during my first year in China, and me and the boss got on OK as he was from a commonwealth country, so I wasn't really dealing with Chinese bosses during my time there.
I had travelled by train many times during my almost 5 years in China, even though oft times it is more expensive than flying, because I like the people you meet in the soft sleeper cabins, and watching the scenery roll by with a beer and a book in the dining car, that, and a fear of flying...I don't really trust brazilian planes or Chinese proficiency in the aerospace field, esp. with regards to maintenance. And I prefer to avoid the migrant folks due to my own negative experiences with them, after having things stolen and being cheated and lied to, the only negative about taking the train...why do you think they have railway police on board and everyones ID is checked?
But an interesting post by you nonetheless. Hope you find what you seek in China.
Bullring/Paul
Tom
- 2011-02-01
''You can be damn sure the Chinese will use some dirt about you, or some perceived flaw, to their gain...so I say play equally dirty, don't be afraid to go down into the gutters just like they will, it's trench warfare, even just being a humble teacher in China...sadly"
I'm sure you are actually referring to the Chinese that have had the biggest influence on your life in China, the people who run and work in these sub-stand outfits, like York school-thoroughly bad scum of the earth types; however, most of the population I find belong to salt of the earth types. One of the reasons I travel by train in China is that i really enjoy talking to the ordinary folk, thoroughly nice well-rounded people who will give you the shirt off their back- not tricky or underhand in any way, like the York School mobsters. Their food tastes like shite but they are okay. Let the train take the strain-good for chatting up university studentesses to boot. No if you get out there and talk to ordinary folk, even migrant works, it'll make your Chinese experience much richer.
You mustn't let York School type vultures cloud your view of the Chinese.
Bullring
- 2011-02-01
@ CL:
You can be damn sure the Chinese will use some dirt about you, or some perceived flaw, to their gain...so I say play equally dirty, don't be afraid to go down into the gutters just like they will, it's trench warfare, even just being a humble teacher in China...sadly:(