San Mig Beer
- 2011-05-24
I'm a joker, I'm a smoker, I'm a midnight toker...
To be honest most FT's are pretty harmless, except for the DOS/Dell boss types...
Silver Bullet
- 2011-05-23
Yes, don't worry, I was including myself, I'm not very bright either. I'm about average, I'd say.
Modesty is not one of the strong points of Chinese teachers nor that of many foreign teachers here. I'd say if you're about average in terms of western intellectual levels, thst will make you an expert here. Everything is relative, of course. So, you're entitled to hold a foreign expert certificate here, as opposed to back in your homeland. I'm sure you won't let that go to your head, even though you must be fully aware there are many pretenders here with them.
Apollyon
- 2011-05-23
I don't think you should generalise about FT's in China. They're pretty much a mixed bag. China has been so kind to accept them all regardless of their individual teaching abilities. Kindness beyond belief, I think.
But of course you are welcome to speak for yourself in this regard. Low standard or not, you're still among em!
Kindness has little to do with it, whereas making money has everything to do with it-however, I suspect you realise that with the "beyond belief" bit.
Yes, don't worry, I was including myself, I'm not very bright either. I'm about average, I'd say.
San Mig Beer
- 2011-05-23
"A fake English degree has got to make one at least as qualified as a real degree in Computer science or any other subject that's not English Lit/grammar."
I'd like to dissect your points-if I may?
My BA is in English Lit-I still don't feel it is useful for teaching English Language however. Only those with an MA in TEFL/TESOL could perhaps claim that, but as you say experience also counts, both in and out of the classroom.
"All of us FT's in China are pretty low standard otherwise we'd be genuine teachers registered as so in our own countries or we'd be here in China as engineers doing business with the Chinese. The only business we do with them seems to be at the end of their boot."
True. We don't get the expat packages that those sent by their companies get, nor are we really offering them anything useful. Still, don't be afraid to haggle to get paid what you think is right...they damned well have no graces when it comes to money, so why should we?!
"I worked with an American girl not so long ago, she was bristling with degrees yet often didn't understand me- nothing to do with my accent it was that her vocabulary was so tiny. I used to assure her she'd find the word in Webster's. On the other hand I've met many degree holders with enormous understanding of the English language, and good teachers to boot."
It's swings and roundabouts. In lack of any regulations re: hiring teachers the glut of perverts, alkies and loonies and generally apathetic lazy dossers will continue,,,doubt it will change much either!
Silver Bullet
- 2011-05-23
All of us FT's in China are pretty low standard otherwise we'd be genuine teachers registered as so in our own countries.
I don't think you should generalise about FT's in China. They're pretty much a mixed bag. China has been so kind to accept them all regardless of their individual teaching abilities. Kindness beyond belief, I think.
But of course you are welcome to speak for yourself in this regard. Low standard or not, you're still among em!
Native Chinglish speaker
- 2011-05-22
On the other hand I've met many degree holders with enormous understanding of the English language
I can Chingrish speak, have velly, velly enolmous undelstanding of Engrish ranguage, can teach Engrish in Amellica (US), and my name is "Heren" flom Yuming Pletend Education Centle.
My deglee flom Cosmos Pletend Univelsity deglee mirr! Velly, velly good!
Werrcome to the worlrd of clooks!!!!!
Apollyon
- 2011-05-22
Welcome to China, a place for many losers from the West with a low educational profile and nothing in their brain!
Indeed at Dell's they even accept Khao San Rd degree certificates! LOL!
Nothing wrong with degrees from the Khaosan road. A fake English degree has got to make one at least as qualified as a real degree in Computer science or any other subject that's not English Lit/grammar.
All of us FT's in China are pretty low standard otherwise we'd be genuine teachers registered as so in our own countries or we'd be here in China as engineers doing business with the Chinese. The only business we do with them seems to be at the end of their boot.
I worked with an American girl not so long ago, she was bristling with degrees yet often didn't understand me- nothing to do with my accent it was that her vocabulary was so tiny. I used to assure her she'd find the word in Webster's. On the other hand I've met many degree holders with enormous understanding of the English language, and good teachers to boot.
Ft's job is not a career or profession- no pension involved.
Stoli Vodka
- 2011-05-21
Welcome to China, a place for many losers from the West with a low educational profile and nothing in their brain!
Indeed at Dell's they even accept Khao San Rd degree certificates! LOL!
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