Solid evidence? What solid evidence are you talking about? s your imagination creating some kind of evidence that no one else can see? As far as I have seen there was a refference to a chinasmack article which is pretty lame as evidence goes.

So you detest the Chinese, [edited] and your point is?
you can detest anyone you want and give your reasons for it but it still does not make it right. Are you expecting people to agree with you here in your hatred of the Chinese? I am sure you can join up with some hate groups that would love to hear what you have to say.

Chinese men are inferior, there is no doubt at all about that.

You do realize that you're lining yourself up to be accused of being a racist by talking like this?
I doubt it, but you may be correct.

I haven't met you in person but I would like to know more about your experiences with chinese men and women and what made you decide to focus on this area of discussion?
Just to back up what other posters like Mr Superiority have said in relation to Chinese men.

To be fair, western culture is often labeled as being obsessed with sex. Maybe being stereotyped for so long in a foreign environment makes you feel defensive minded. It sounds like there may be a bigger reason why you want to make this point on the boards. Care to elaborate?
No special reason, but I'd heard jokes about Asian men having short willies before I left my country for China. I'd also heard passers-by here commenting that my Chinese girlfriend must prefer a big trouser-snake because she was with me. Then they said something derogatory about her and giggled in a very childish manner. So. I suppose the racism here goes both ways.

The fact that you refer to Chinasmack to back up your arguement tells me one thing for sure.

Please specify what it tells you for sure. I've no idea what you're getting at. That map was not produced by Chinasmack, by the way. But I posted that particular link so that readers could also read the comments submitted by Chinese people and others relating to the map.

Finally, argument is spelled as I've just typed it. You've misspelt it on more than one occasion, so I thought it was worth mentioning.

You are presented with solid evidence, and you still don't believe. Also, because Chinese men are small they try to compensate, by buying expensive gifts for young women. That does not make up for poor performance in the bedroom Kevin. Many species of animals have become extinct, or will become extinct, thanks to the greed and stupid sexual beliefs of Chinese men. So I have good reson to detest them.

Chinese men are inferior, there is no doubt at all about that.

BTW, Tasmania is not a country.

You have not answered heo question Kevin. Tell me something useful China has contributed to the world in the past 50 years? You won't reply, because there is nothing. Now another posted has provided evidence also that Chinese men are inferior. On top of that, it is hard to refute my argument that Chinese people are raping this planet and exploiting it's resources.

Species are becoming extinct, just so greedy and selfish Chinese men can find aphrodisiacs in the ( false ) belief that it will make them better lovers. This is fact Kevin, don't try to deny it!

Mr Superiority had posted - 'The stupid obsession Chinese men have regarding improving their pathetic sex lives is also leading to the extinction of many species all over this planet.'

Kevin's reply to Mr Superiority - 'There was post here the other week suggesting that scientific evidence proved the Chinese were inferior to western men, is it possible that was you writing it under a different name?'

Sorry, Kev; based on the scientific information depicted on the world map in the link below, I must agree with Mr Superiority!

http://www.chinasmack.com/2011/pictures/average-penis-size-world-map-chinese-netizen-reactions.html

Maybe you should take a long hard look at history before you toot the horn for Chinese men. If Chinese men are so great then why is the divorce rate in China now higher than in the West?

You are way too pro-Chinese for my liking. Tell me anything useful China that has contributed to the world during the past 50 years?

Seems to me they are nothing but takers who are raping this planet and exploiting it's resources.

The stupid obsession Chinese men have regarding improving their pathetic sex lives is also leading to the extinction
of many species all over this planet.

Truly disturbing!

I am referring to scumbags regardless of their nationality.
If you think it is ok to act like a scumbag because they do it then I would suggest your head is screwed on wrong.

It's good you see people who expose themselves for who they are. But so far I only see Natural Selection as the only poster who has made statements which can be presented as evidence suggesting whites are genetically superior to the chinese. That lad is most likely just a troll who wants attention and antagonize this thread. Many of the perceived issues with racism actually stem from issues that are socially/culturally/affluency related. Language can guide us and can be the most powerful tool, but it can also limit us in the worst way. Don't just judge from the surface of what people say, you might be entrapping yourself in the long run within the argument.

The sad fact is that when I first came to China i strongly believed in the idea that foreigners had to stick together and fight for the respect. The longer I am here though the more I see that most people that come here are here for themselves, have very little respect for anyone even themselves and will take advantage of anyone they can. So many people come on this site bashing the Chinese and people that have anything positive to say., but it is evident that for the most part they are [edited] who wouldnt be able to do what they do in their own country. As I have said before people can call me what they want, it really doesn't matter when you see what kind of message they are spewing.
I will never buy into the crap that some of these people are selling, actually I am glad that they show others what kind of [edited] they are and how their opinion should be considered.

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Chinese men are inferior to Western men. This is not racism, but a scientifically proven, established fact.

Nowhere in any of my posts have I said anything to show support for Chinese men, I can understand some of their animosity but I do not agree with it. Any time someone comes here and does not follow the Chinese bashing that goes on here they are instantly criticized for it. I am sure you saw in my initial post to the one who was suprised by the overly zealous and sarcastic response I talked about how certain scumbags on this site would go on to attack anyone with anything positive to say. I say that these people are degenerate scumbags who ttake advantage of young women with little to no life experience. Anyone anywhere that takes advantage of people is a scumbag in my mind, regardless of where they are from. There are plenty of chinese scumbags out there but to say all Chinese men are is just ridiculous. The claims that "the worst foreign man is better than the best chinese man" or "foreign men provide the love that Chinese men can't" is not only ridiculous but it is incredibly arrogant as well.
As you saw with the post from that woman Lucy there are foreigners here that have no idea what is happening in china with regards to morally challenged FT using their position at the university. As there is little to control them they can move from town to town once the heat gets turned up and do whatever they please all over again. The foreigners that know these people and say nothing about their atrocious behavior are not doing anyone any favors. By saying that the Chinese behave badly allows us to behave badly seems to me to be a weak argument. I kow that many of the Chinese are racist and view Foreigners as a necessary evil but that does not mean I should treat them horribly and take advantage of them whenever I can. At the end of the day they are human being s, some bad some good but ultimately not to be treated like dogs or playthings.
By living here and showing them that not all foreigners are barbarians there will be some that learn and grow from the experience. If a foreigner however uses this country as a playground they then help to reinforce the ideas.
Saying that because Chines men treat women horribly it is alright for the FT to indisciminately sex up whoever he likes sounds an awful lot like claiming a woman was raped because she was dressed too provacatively. The fact is that there are those here who will take advantage of those with little to no lifew experience and try to justify it. Why should anyone listen to their opinions on anything else when they act like the scumbags they claim they hate. There is no way i am going to change my mind on this no matter how often these scumbags claim that the Chinese deserve this behavior. Anyone with a shred of decency would have to agree, of course because I am making a stand and defying certain scumbags here I will be deemed a sympathizer and not worth listening to.
You asked what it was that made me dislike foreigners here and I can simply say that I have met enough people here that treat other human beings like dirt. There are plenty of Chinese people that I have nothing to do with for that reason as well and if I was on a site like China daily I would be writing what I believe there. Just because I am living in china does not mean that I have to abandon my principles.
So for the scumbags that try to justify their behavior I say shame on you and when Karma comes and gives you your comeuppance do not expect any sympathy from me. Nor will I agree with anything you might spout off as it is obvious you are flawed and therefore not deserving of any regard.

I do not support nor condone pedophilia. You should look at my previous postings regarding the area of sex. Not all expats behave like this. As such you obviously think that most if not all expats do. I wouldn't call having intimate relationships with someone over the age of 18 criminal. Unethical, yes if you're a middle aged man, but not criminal. You seem to be giving an inordinate amount of credit towards the chinese for being good and being people worthy of your complete trust, I will not say anything more to you on that as I have already made my points clear on how I feel about chinese culture or "culture".

I suggest you actually learn chinese well enough to where you can listen to a conversation in chinese, also you should learn how to read chinese and go to a bookstore and read some of the novels and books regarding politics, the military, and religion. You can then have a more well rounded idea of just how chinese people may think. Not knowing a language well enough can make you susceptible to a distorted view of one side being overtly good.

My viewpoints come from the fact that I know pedophilia as well as child abuse occur in china and within chinese families. This is a fact, not fiction. The reason the girls are so susceptible comes from the very foundation of how they are raised by the so called "traditional" and "cultural" upbringing of chinese parents. They are purposefully kept naive, jaded, and made slow to grow up and take responsiblity for themselves because that makes it easier to control them. Chinese parents purposefully and consciously try to keep their children from being too independent, why don't you show criticism towards them, too?

I don't doubt you may have strong feelings for this. I don't like foreigners coming to china for sex tours any more than you do. But in the end it's still up to the Chinese people themselves to take responsiblity to teach their children to love themselves and see themselves as human beings. It takes two to tango, and you haven't offered up concrete solutions on promoting self love, self knowledge, and firm independence of the spirit. I'm not saying I would have better ideas than you, but looking on both sides you can see how things happen for a reason. I cannot run into bedrooms and drage out every girl who is going to be taken advantage of by an unscrupulous expat, so accusing me of being somehow responsible for their behavior and saying I "condone" it is flawed logic. Hopefully with time you'll realize this.

I wouldn't necessarily agree with everything about what silverboy and san migs have said. However even if their opinions can seem a little distorted to some if you truly cared about how chinese people are raised you would see where these perceptions can come from. I left the USA to find something different, one of which was to be in a more conservative society where everyone, including the men of course, would respect people for living a more "yoga-ish" life (one with less or no alcohol, drugs, smoking, and of course more celibacy). I thought china would offer such an environment, but of course i really should have done more research. With sex shops, brothels, public smoking and forced drinking everywhere this isn't a clean country to live in for your spiritual needs.

If you're going to ask someone to adhere to a set of moral boundaries, you should probably make sure everyone in that respective society stays consistent. Yes chinese women are taught that sex is bad, you should only do it after you marry, and you shouldn't object to what the "man of the house" be that your father, brother, or husband has to say or do. There is most likely a strong feeling of emptiness and unfullfillment. Now i'm not advocating immoral stuff such as extramarital affairs, cheating on your significant other, and/or sleeping around. BUT the chinese men do it, in fact they do all of it. Not only do they do all of it, some of them intentionally try and push for a social acceptance of polygamy to justify their ego and inferiority complex.

As for being in the family, there is the old saying of "once the girl is married off, she is like a spilled bucket of water". In other words society is supposed to look down on her if she tries separation. Granted the chinese women don't make it better for themselves with their petty jealousies toward each other as well as their willful intention of emasculating their husbands and boyfriends out of frustration that they aren't being heard and their needs aren't being met. It can be a two way street with both sides holding on to some selfish mantra they must let go of.

It is a part of human nature to think of the grass as being greener than the other side. When you have an expat who needs company and a local woman who needs to be given more caring words and be thought about, you have relationships happen. You may think silverboy is being racist, but you might want to think what's triggering this emotional reaction. If he was really racist he wouldn't be living in china for so long. Chinese people are very antagonistic and can say some very nasty, hurtful things about expats. It doesn't help expats live in a system that offers them almost no personal protection whatsoever from being taken advantage of. As expats we need to stick closer together rather than drift further away. Are your personal experiences really that bad that you don't want anything to do with other foreigners?

I only hate Chinese men, aka the Chinaman, why you may ask?

Because I have heard their hatred towards me and other western males, and not just inside China either pal!!

They don't own their women, and no more double standards. Sorry, but I stand with silverboy on this one!!

So know you believe what I know.

How much experience have you had with dating Chinese girls, and seeing the Chinese male reaction to a laowai with a Chinese gal?