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#1 Parent Dragonized - 2012-02-20
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This is very true. Materialism is alive and well. People in china will spend a good chunk of what they make (especially the younger generation) on material goods, fashionable goods. The poverty is located in more remote areas and hidden vigilantly by the powers that be as well as by the locals themselves. One needs to look and observe before drawing any conlusions hastily.

#2 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-19
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Apparently one where i can see both sides of the coin. I don't doubt that some Chinese families can afford to send their kids to international schools and foreign universities the evidence for this is all around and as i said in a previous post it's the only reason why many private schools in China exist in the first place. What is also clear is that there are many people in this country who live on very little.

The town I live in is supposed to be poor, yet I have seen poor looking people depositing and withdrawing stacks of rmb at the bank, hairdressers playing on ipads, etc etc...Chinese keep money in the family, there is less poverty than you may realize.

#3 Parent Here's-Your-Answer - 2012-02-20
Ealing -- A Reprise on a Bad Name

Firstly, Ealing's little weasels are very good at avoiding all of the issues here. So let's go through the requisitory again.

(a) Ealiing is affiliated with the British Government, its agencies, etc., etc.

It is not. It has never been and it will never be.

(b) Ealing is under the control of the Department of Education of the Queensland Government.

It is not. Ealing participates in a seriously money-grubbing operation called GAC which somehow, somehow, allows matriculated students to obtain an Australian High School diploma and then to enter university.

There must be 100,000 of these kind of schemes in China and Queensland is notorious for being the worst (they are 90% Australian and 10% Canadian). For anyone who has ever worked in one of these GAC programs, they will how not serious and money grubbing it is.

(c) Ealing claims that Dalian is the hardest place in China to obtain a work permit authorization for a foreign teacher.

It is not. Absolutely not. Considering that I have worked in, and in Dalian as I write, I can tell you that Dalian is like any other Chinese city -- with good relations, friends, good name, Dalian is a relatively EASY city in which to obtain a work permit.

That is an Ealing smokescreen -- obviously they do not have good relations with the PSB, with the FEB, etc., etc.

And yes, one cannot change visa status in Liaoning Province but one can be sen to Hong Kong, Macau, Thailand, Indonesia, even Mongolia, provided the paperwork is properly done.

(d) Ealing claims that its working conditions are above normal for the city.

Sorry, guys but they are not. They are below par. Your teachers must give 25 classes per week; your teachers must give 5 office hours per week; your teachers must spend another 2 - 3 hours per day travelling around outside from one-school-to-the-other. That is a minimum of 45 - 50 hours per week. For RMB 6,000 per month before taxes, that ain't a lot of money and that doesn't take into account taxes.

(e) Ealing's Partner Schools in England.

Another smokescreen. What "partner schools"? That is the oldest trick in the Chinese book.


(f) Ealing pays on time.


Well, folks, just ask anyone in Dalian. They will tell you that that isn't true. When the clients pay late, and they do, Ealing pays late. Ealing claims that it has missed one pay...my sources tell me that it happens far more often that!

Frankly, they are protesting so loudly that the quotation from Shakespeare comes to mind.

#4 Parent Magister - 2012-02-19
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What world are you living in?

Apparently one where i can see both sides of the coin. I don't doubt that some Chinese families can afford to send their kids to international schools and foreign universities the evidence for this is all around and as i said in a previous post it's the only reason why many private schools in China exist in the first place. What is also clear is that there are many people in this country who live on very little.

UNICEF reported than in 2009, 36% of Chinese still lived on under $2 a day. Are you suggesting that these people are in a position to send their kids to private schools or foreign universities? Do you think they take a lot of international flights?

Rich coastal cities such as Wenzhou and the upper class who live in them (although you find plenty of poor people there too) do not represent the whole picture. See article from China Daily

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2010-03/02/content_9521611.htm

This is all set against the backdrop of rising inflation and food prices. 'The belt' for many Chinese is already tight and getting tighter.

#5 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-19
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Furthermore a return flight for £600 (that’s very conservative!) would still be more than many Chinese families earn in 3months!

What world are you living in?

While people in the UK are tightening their belts, the Chinese can afford to send their daughters and sons to study overseas,so do you really think 600 pounds for a flight is a big deal to them? I have seen what some Chinese pay into and withdraw from the banks in China, and it's more than most FT's will ever see I would imagine. This is a nation of savers, make no mistake...and a lot of them invest as well. They don't call wenzhounese the jews of the east for nothing you know.

And 600 for a flight is doable with BA, as well.

#6 Parent Magister - 2012-02-19
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It might be of interest for you to know that official figures for foreign students in the UK (that's students from outside the UK or EU) for the academic year 2010/2011 state the average tuition fee for studying at a UK university is £10,463 a year. Let's then consider that these students have to pay for housing and living costs in a country where such expenses are significantly higher than their homeland. Furthermore a return flight for £600 (that’s very conservative!) would still be more than many Chinese families earn in 3months!

THEY ARE GOING TO SPEND 10’s if not 100’s of thousands of pounds studying in the west!

If you feel the need to further discredit yourself then please do post the costs of classes at your school as I’m pretty sure you’re not doing any pro bono work.

You can have all the dreams, drive and ambition in the world but unless you happen to win the lottery, be one of the very few students who get a full scholarship or have rich parents then you aren’t going to be studying at Ealing International and then going abroad.

Access to higher education is increasingly becoming a privilege not a right!

#7 Parent Ealing International College - 2012-02-18
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But does it NOT cost 10's or 100's or 100's of dollars to study in both America and in the UK? With price increases in education in these countries why should the economics of China and their development hinder those who have ambition and drive... All we do is offer a course to aid a dream and they have a choice as with any system to either accept or not accept that choice...

#8 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-18
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and not just for the new rich elitists but then thats the cynical world we live in where some succeed, some lose and some just complain......

Sounds like you have an axe to grind here yourself.

You sound like a thatcher 80s type to me.

#9 Parent Magister - 2012-02-18
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some honest people are trying to make things better here in China, and not just for the new rich elitists

Surely you can't be refering to yourselves with that statement. A place like this only exists because of the new rich elitists in China who are pouring into to Western Universities.

Buying your course and going to study abroad would cost 10's if not 100's of thousands of dollars for a Chinese family.

#10 Parent Ealing International College - 2012-02-18
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Ealing simply gets it name from the area of London where it originated from. We are a Sino-British company and some remarks actually reflect the British education system and NOT EIC. Its a tad tiring with all people just passing judgment on 3rd hand information when some honest people are trying to make things better here in China, and not just for the new rich elitists but then thats the cynical world we live in where some succeed, some lose and some just complain......

#11 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-18
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Now, I would NOT work for you at all!!!!

Me neither!!!

I would avoid this slippery EEL-ING place that has nothing to do with the UK AT ALL, because it is just that a place full of grovelling, slippery EELS! I thought the grovelling weasel species was bad enough....now it seems we have a new one to contend with! LOL!

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