Mancunian
- 2012-12-20
.I'm sure you're enjoying yourself as a self appointed referee of sorts. Start a pop warner league or something for kids
I can't say if that's a good suggestion or not for me, on account of not knowing who this 'Pop Warner' is?
I didn't realise that I was doing any refereeing of any sorts; I thought I had been coming down heavily in favour of what Foxy believes; although, we all have differences, so I am sure we will not totally agree on all things to do with China.
Dragonized
- 2012-12-20
I'm sure you're enjoying yourself as a self appointed referee of sorts. Start a pop warner league or something for kids.
Mancunian
- 2012-12-19
The poster "Foxy" has some opinions which can be obviously irritating, but at the same time anyone who overuses the "you haven't been here/there" or "experience" argument without giving forth details and facts may be using these things as a form of last resort since there really isn't much left in the tank with regards to winning an argument. For some posters they will not stop unless they have the last word. I say let them if it means that much to them. But we all have the free choice of walking away.
I find the poster, Foxy, says things as they are; in fact, I'll wager a bet he's a Northerner-If not, I shall make him a Honorary Northerner, hahaha. Joke and aside, his English is really very very good. With respect, he may on occasion find what you say irritating. cheers&beers
Dragonized
- 2012-12-19
If we bash china and we're still living there, we're called hypocrites.
If we criticize and we're not living there, we're questioned by how much "experience" we're supposed to have.
Just can't win sometimes.
I wonder if any of these older men ever bothered to learn chinese from someone who is from said background. You will find plenty living in western countries these days and from their parents and relatives you can get learn just as much about chinese stuff as you would if you lived in china. None of the expats I ever met in china (even if they spoke mandarin) ever cared about completely giving up their own western habits. I don't think I need to tell anyone who has lived there long enough if you'll ever live to see the day when locals treat you like a local.
Happy Holidays to all.
foxy
- 2012-12-19
So how long have you been in China then?
Since 1994, more or less constantly!
Happy festive season to you too
Best wishes,
foxy.
Dragonized
- 2012-12-19
The poster "Foxy" has some opinions which can be obviously irritating, but at the same time anyone who overuses the "you haven't been here/there" or "experience" argument without giving forth details and facts may be using these things as a form of last resort since there really isn't much left in the tank with regards to winning an argument. For some posters they will not stop unless they have the last word. I say let them if it means that much to them. But we all have the free choice of walking away.
San Migs
- 2012-12-18
and I'm more 'experienced' than you are in China - been here before you ever thought of comin here; but unlike you, I've special 'visa' needs..lol!
So how long have you been in China then? Not accusing you of anything or reporting or spying on you, just curious?
For myself 7 years on and off, with visits home. Reasonably fluent in guang dong hua and pu tong hua. Can also read a little?
What qualifies someone to be in your words "more experienced'? Do you have a phd in east asian studies or chinese language and literature perchance?
Merry xmas
SMGS
Mancunian
- 2012-12-18
Not in my case, and I'm more 'experienced' than you are in China - been here before you ever thought of comin here; but unlike you, I've special 'visa' needs..lol! And recruiters assist me greatly to achieve same. As do agents, especially River's company in Yuncheng of Shanxi.
Money ain't everything - I get a massive 'power' kick out of my 'visa' games. Much better than havin loads of money to spend. Please don't generalize in future.
I've heard glowing reports about the agent/recruiter, Yuncheng IELTS. I am told they really value their native born English foreign teachers, not having too many of those.
Yes, I think it adds a bit of zest to life, working on L&F visas; and you can be more flexible. Probably if you are not married it's best that a co-operative school like Yuncheng IELTS to turn your L into an F, because they can renew it in Shanxi Province. As you are married, no sweat, because you can get a year-long spouses L. Good man.
foxy
- 2012-12-18
A recruiter is certainly not needed in the case of experienced FT's.
Not in my case, and I'm more 'experienced' than you are in China - been here before you ever thought of comin here; but unlike you, I've special 'visa' needs..lol! And recruiters assist me greatly to achieve same. As do agents, especially River's company in Yuncheng of Shanxi.
Money ain't everything - I get a massive 'power' kick out of my 'visa' games. Much better than havin loads of money to spend. Please don't generalize in future.