Thanks, will check it out.

Dragonized: I find Mancunian quite classy, his posts are most of the time very sophisticated, "old Europe" style.

You mean the old Europe style of hypocrisy as exhibited by that of the clowns and connivers so thoroughly depicted in the classical novels, short stories, and plays including that written by Shakespeare, Moliere, Maupassant, Balzac, and Chekhov? No, this poster does an average job pretending he can be up this as far as I can tell. You need more life experience if you want to see really bad people. People who need pity from others don't always beg for it, they will annoy you and try to talk bad things about others that they themselves possess quite thoroughly.

The two of you remind me of the Cadillac STS ads on American TV some 4-5 years ago where you have a most elegant "old Europe" ballroom with gilded wood panels on the walls and with crystal chandeliers reflecting in the shining marble floors. Suddenly a bad ass Cadillac STS comes to the ballroom very fast, turns very fast, and screeches to a halt, making the chandeliers above swing slightly.

I fail to see this comparison as being "classy", no offense. Although I would like to find this commercial on youtube now for my own amusement. I would like to help and make good contributions, and that starts with my own honesty. But if you just want to sit back and enjoy the show so to speak you don't exactly inspire trust with knowing what classy is or is not. I do hope you mean well, the previous statement was just my own opinion.

With nothing lasting forever in mind, you should all stop grumbling, enjoy China, while it lasts...wo shi dui de hai shi wo shi dui de?

Don't complain about others if they disagree with you as "grumbling", it is lame and immature. It shows that you don't actually have anything valuable to say. I do not call you a whiner, complainer, or grumbler based on what you have written although the thought has crossed my mind, but I don't need to take such shortcuts. If you can't take another person's opinions well because you can't provide solid, real information to back up what you are saying then that is your own [edited] mind acting up. You don't have the facts to back up what you are saying, and it is you who needs to re-examine your statements. You can always say that you agree to disagree, it's easy enough. Try and show a little class if you really want to convince readers that you mean well and that they should take you more seriously.