Hello, Herr Turnoi, or after another bottle, Heir Turnoi. Has foxy said i was right yet? San Migs also commented on this riddle; so as he and foxy get on so well, perhaps he can e-mail him, and he can put you straight hahaha. Oh yes, though river was 'fleuve' in French...but you could be right on account of me not having two degrees to rub together.