While it pains me a little to say this, I have to take Turnoi's side this time after weighing what both sides have told me. I think smgs is feeling too down to be objective. He has let all the bad attitudes and ill will of lesser human beings get to him and he actually believes that he is on a lower level than some of them. It did not help that he sold out my personal information when he was perhaps posting under the pseudonym of "the shifter". We all have our tough times, and we can forgive some of what our friends may have said. But it is a reciprocal relationship, and he has to show he is willing to be consistent and be firmly on one side which is our side instead of letting his own personal indecision get in the way.