Monica at New Life ESL
- 2014-04-23
Hi Chris,
We do not have any teachers sign a contract with us directly, so I'm unsure of what you're talking about. If I was making 18,000RMB per teacher placed, I would let your criticism go over my head because I'd be too wealthy to care. Just like I've said to Silverboy, we don't make any money if there is anyone left unhappy on either side. Our teachers happily contact us with issues they have. For that, we're thankful. We keep in touch with them long after they've been placed. They have our personal phone numbers. We're never hiding from anyone or anything.
There is only one person on this thread that has actually contacted us directly about proving them a service. You are not one of them. Please do not judge the service of a business you have never used.
John O'Shei
- 2014-03-06
That's what they do.
The schools that use these agents, usually don't have a license to recruit foreign teachers. The police have visited such schools and warned foreigners that if they continue to teach there, they will face deportation.
I sometimes wonder if foreign teachers that are unlucky enough to work for such agency, should form an online database of these kind of schools. Unfortunately, their lack of Chinese may prevent them from giving accurate details, but maybe if one or two foreigners with good Chinese and the use of Baidu can help them out. People with the right contacts could grass these schools up to the right people in the PSB, when the teacher has safely left that company.
Hell, people even get financial rewards for grassing up the illegal teachers these days too. Might feel guilty about getting a new teacher in shit, but... It might work out better for them.
Chris
- 2014-03-06
No fees eh? The 18,000RMB (ballpark) that your contracted school pays you, teacher gets what 5,000-7000RMB? you provide them then shared housing and keep the remaining cash for yourselves. Am I right?!
John O'Shei
- 2014-03-05
You are still a recruiter at the end of the day, legit or not.
If you use a recruiter, they will take a cut out of your salary plus a commission payment. That's one reason not to use them.
Secondly, if you are not a newbie teacher and have to use a recruiter to get a uni teaching job in China, you are a retard. Google is your friend here.
Even if you are a newbie teacher, I have pretty much given you all the information that you need to help you find a university teaching job already.
Monica at New Life ESL
- 2014-03-05
Hi,
I am one third of the team at New Life. We are real people who take our work seriously. We do not ask for any fees and only work with schools that have given us contact information from previous teachers who have then verified then school as well. We are the only American owned and ran agency in China.
If we hear a bad review about a school, we do our research and do the best we can to make sure our placed teachers are safe and happy. We have years of first-hand experience in China. We know the ropes and we've been through it all before.
Please search far and wide for a bad review out there about us before saying they all "seem to be legit". We are "legit".
giver or taker?
- 2014-02-28
I found it was always best to directly visit the university itself and apply for work. Talking to anyone you have not met 12,000 km away
is always a big risk.
John O'Shei
- 2014-02-27
One piece of advice for foreign teachers that want a university job, but struggle to find direct contacts or which university it is that they are talking about:
Recruiting websites sometimes take a university's introductory profile, copy and paste it but replace all university references with 'This university.' This is done not only on the website, but also advertisements, some of which you will probably on this website.
The English level of most recruiters is not actually good enough for them to write their own description of a matching standard. Either that or they are lazy, hence the copy/paste crap.
Just copy and paste a quote from that (which doesn't include 'This university') and put it into google. An official university website will probably be included in the results.
Go there and get those contact details. The English language websites are usually shit and never updated. Go on the Chinese website.
Don't worry about department leaders, FAOs or HR guys not speaking English. If they hire English teachers, they tend to speak English, lol.
John
- 2014-02-27
Been teaching in China for years and haven't heard of new life. I will give you some advice however.
Recruiting agencies take anywhere from 60 to 30% of a cut from your wage. It's best to try to go through a school directly. You "have to" negotiate", don't take no for an answer.
If they offer you to work on and l or F visa, "don't do it", that's illegal and if you're caught you're deported. You want a Z visa. If you get into any kind of trouble you have no legal rights. Ask them for e-mail or phone numbers of current foreign employees to get their side of the story. Ask them what school they will be placing you too, the name and address and look them up to see if there are any reviews about them. (if they don't, you're going in blindly and at your own risk). Other useful pieces of information that you might want is their Ministry of education registration number and SAIC number. I can tell you now, they will not have these two numbers or they will give you a fake. Since many and I mean many recruiters aren't registered. If you do decide to go through them, make sure you get the owners Chinese name and identification number or a copy of his ID. Once again, they will refuse, but ... if you show from the start that you are smart and are careful and doing your homework, they might think twice about messing with you. Many companies just change their names to get away from bad reviews. But they can't run away from their real name and real Chinese name. This is something for all esl teachers to consider. Any experienced ESL teacher in China has gone through some sort of shady company of school or dealt with crap. So I can't stress it enough do your homework before you go and don't take no for an answer. Can't stress enough also to "Negotiate". Good luck and please post about the company once you know more about them.
John O'Shei
- 2014-02-21
Interesting, but please... Don't just slag off a company off like that.
Give us some details. Such information would be very much appreciated.
Bob Harley
- 2014-02-21
NEW LIFE is an old lying life company that PRETENDS to be legit, but it is NOT.
hendra
- 2014-02-21
lol, they always seem to be legit, but are not. Apply for a job at a university instead, but not a private one.
I have recently applied for a job with New Life ESL and they seem pretty legit, I was just wondering if anyone had any experience with them? I haven't had a teaching job before so I don't know what to expect when applying.