Beth
- 2014-09-24
I'll make sure to tell the students I taught 5 years ago, who still regularly email me or chat on kakao with me, that you said they won't remember me! Just because you are a forgettable teacher, doesn't mean we all are!They certainly won't remember Beth the ESL teacher when they are living it large in Canada or Shanghai or whereever. I think you lack a lot of understanding of chinese culture, confucianism, and the inner and outer circles.
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-24
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I quite like the napoleon quote though, kudos on that one.
Now if I may play the quote game, to retort with a favourite of mine:
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ZenMaster
- 2014-09-24
It's all a matter of level of vibrations. You vibrate at a rather low level. Some people vibrate at higher levels, have ideals, believe in improving the human kind and the treatment of animals. It is my personal experience that people don't easily bump up their vibration level, or at least it takes a life time to show some improvement. So.... you will stay where you are, and you will never understand those that are higher up. Napoleon once said that we can't ask a rat to describe an eagle. That simple. Don't even try.
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-24
it's about your students missing a lesson! THEY are your priority!
Wrong again. The students (esp. in China) won't remember or thank you once you have buggered off. To them you are just there to help them pass the gao kao and even then you don't have that much impact, all they want is to get into a good university, and for some of them go abroad. They certainly won't remember Beth the ESL teacher when they are living it large in Canada or Shanghai or whereever. I think you lack a lot of understanding of chinese culture, confucianism, and the inner and outer circles.
My priority is getting my Club World flight home each summer, so I can sit there with a glass of champagne and think thank god I am out of that polluted hellhole and look forward to sitting by a swimming pool in sunny spain.
Walking Dead
- 2014-09-23
A 5 star Michelin restaurant! That food must have been cooked by God himself - that doesn't mean you Gordon Ramsey if you are reading this! Unfortunately Michelin's highest award is 3 stars ...................
Beth
- 2014-09-23
It's not about the days pay that you lose, it's about your students missing a lesson! THEY are your priority! I am not obsessed with 'making a difference' I am passionate about teaching my students to a high standard. Clearly from your comments YOU are the one who is concerned about your salary. I don't teach for the money, I teach because I love teaching.Calling in sick because you have drunk too much is another example of free time negatively impacting your teaching. Simples.
Well if I lose a days pay, so be it. The chinese don't care, and neither do I....it's not curing cancer or working for the UN, it's teaching english at a public school in a second tier city in China. You TC mob seem obsessed with "making a difference", but in reality you care about getting paid....education has nothing to do with it, it's all a big scam at training centres, but you are unwilling to see that and still work for one now
Again, you do it because your students should be your priority, not lining your pockets. Your students deserve your best, no matter where you teach or for how much.Nobody else has said doing the bare minimum for their classes is their ethos. Nobody else has said teaching 16 different classes on one lesson plan is acceptable. When they do I'll call them a lazy tourist-teacher too.
Bare minimum for the bare minimum wage....the chinese get a pension, and all other sorts of gifts and stuff that we don't get at public school jobs. Why should I do more just to line their pockets? I don't do FREE!!!! You want me to judge an english contest...pay me.
Beth
- 2014-09-23
Thanks! It was bloody difficult, but I feel so much better for it now! 19 months cigarette free!Congratulations on that, Beth. Good going!
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-23
Ergo, teaching whilst hungover is an example of your free time negatively impacting your teaching.
I will concede to you on that point, however I only had classes monday-friday, and would only drink fri and sat nights, not sunday...hence it was never a problem.
Calling in sick because you have drunk too much is another example of free time negatively impacting your teaching. Simples.
Well if I lose a days pay, so be it. The chinese don't care, and neither do I....it's not curing cancer or working for the UN, it's teaching english at a public school in a second tier city in China. You TC mob seem obsessed with "making a difference", but in reality you care about getting paid....education has nothing to do with it, it's all a big scam at training centres, but you are unwilling to see that and still work for one now.
And btw, I don't smoke, I gave up quite some time ago now. Not that whether I smoke or not has anything to do with anything being discussed on this board!
Fair enough. [edited]
And I don't overlook others faults,
That was directed at somebody poster, but fair enough.
I have called others out when I disagree with something they say.
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Nobody else has said teaching whilst drunk/hungover is acceptable.
I have not stated drunk teaching is acceptable. I have said if the teacher feels their hangover is not too bad and they can attend class, then they should do it. If not, ring in sick.
Nobody else has said doing the bare minimum for their classes is their ethos. Nobody else has said teaching 16 different classes on one lesson plan is acceptable. When they do I'll call them a lazy tourist-teacher too.
Bare minimum for the bare minimum wage....the chinese get a pension, and all other sorts of gifts and stuff that we don't get at public school jobs. Why should I do more just to line their pockets? I don't do FREE!!!! You want me to judge an english contest...pay me.
Somebody
- 2014-09-23
And btw, I don't smoke, I gave up quite some time ago now.
Congratulations on that, Beth. Good going!
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-23
Simply wrong.
Re-read, I am not in China but NEARBY China, [edited]
Beth
- 2014-09-23
If you are hungover, you cannot teach as well as if you were well rested, you cannot perform any task whilst hungover as well as when you are well rested. Ergo, teaching whilst hungover is an example of your free time negatively impacting your teaching. Calling in sick because you have drunk too much is another example of free time negatively impacting your teaching. Simples.Yes, hungover does not mean drunk, as long as you can teach well. If a FT is too unwell from a hangover, HE or SHE should call in sick,simples.
And btw, I don't smoke, I gave up quite some time ago now. Not that whether I smoke or not has anything to do with anything being discussed on this board!
And I don't overlook others faults, I have called others out when I disagree with something they say. Nobody else has said teaching whilst drunk/hungover is acceptable. Nobody else has said doing the bare minimum for their classes is their ethos. Nobody else has said teaching 16 different classes on one lesson plan is acceptable. When they do I'll call them a lazy tourist-teacher too.
Beth
- 2014-09-22
He went back because he likes doing the bare minimum for an easy life, he's an admitted lazy teacher and he's admitted that that mindset is not tolerated in most other countries, if he goes back to China he gets to do very little (16 classes, 1 lesson plan!) whilst having plenty of time for drinking and chasing girls.
He's not a teacher, he's an English speaking tourist looking to fund a lifelong vacation.
John O'Shei
- 2014-09-22
Not all teachers are saints... Hell, I even dropped pills in a club with one of my old teachers only a few months after I left high school myself. Was gutted that despite her being still in her 20's and pretty fit; I didn't get molested.
However many years on from that slightly awkward moment, I can't say I'll ever be doing the same with my recently graduated university students if I see them out and about; although I don't have a problem with having the odd beer with them, should we happen to be in the same bar.
Also, I don't really like drinking on work nights, not because of the moral police though. I just don't want to go to work feeling like shit.
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-23
Wrong, I never returned to the UK, but I won't mention on here for reasons of privacy which country I went to, I am also as of now, outside of the PRC.
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Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-23
Why do you feel the need to distinguish 'male' FTs??
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Yes, hungover does not mean drunk, as long as you can teach well. If a FT is too unwell from a hangover, HE or SHE should call in sick,simples.
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-23
San Migs? Uh, who he?
Yes I like my beer, sangria, wine. But I don't smoke unlike miss bossy boots, nor eat red meat. I also like hiking and open water swimming...stop implying things. You overlook many other posters faults.
Somebody
- 2014-09-22
Why did you come back to China?
You left last year to return to the UK because you hate it so much.
Why come back?
Beth
- 2014-09-22
Why do you feel the need to distinguish 'male' FTs?? You really do have a problem with women, don't you!
You said it was acceptable to turn up to class drunk/hungover so long as you were showered and had breath mints.
This is what I mean by free time impacting your teaching. If you are teaching the next day, you shouldn't be out drinking the night before. You wouldn't do it in the UK (in any profession), so you shouldn't do it in China either.
That is not circular logic. Perhaps you should look that phrase up before using it again.
Somebody
- 2014-09-22
Your former screen name, San Migs, suggests that you like drinking far more than you admit.
And your posting behavior confirms this.
Concerned Teacher
- 2014-09-22
letting thier free time activities negatively impact thier teaching....
You are the one using circular logic. Where did I mention it impacts my teaching or any male FT's teaching?
I don't bring a chinese girlfriend to class, nor turn up to class drunk or hungover. Weekends are my free time-simples. [edited]
Fifi
- 2014-09-21
All you have is:
- your paranoid claims about fake posters
- your negativity about positive experiences
- your circular logic and strawman theories
- your silly made up insults for people who disagree with you
- a selective blindness when it comes to facts.
MOST EXCELLENT! Worth spreading in the plate, like a gourmet dinner at a Michelin 5 star restaurant.
Thank you, Londongirl, for the delightful time reading your posts!!!
Beth
- 2014-09-21
Just not thier personal integrity when it comes to unimportant subjects like attitudes towards women, working hard for their students' benefit or letting thier free time activities negatively impact thier teaching....and I am sure about their personal integrity when it comes to these disgusting businesses,
But all that can be ignored! One shouldn't concern themselves with trivial matters like that on a teaching forum, oh no! They share the same blanket, biased hatred of something, that despite none of us having any personal experience of, we claim to know better about every single school and every single person who's worked at one!
Good you can differentiate between the important things, eh?!
You don't know better, none of you do... All you have is your paranoid claims about fake posters, your negativity about positive experiences, your circular logic and strawman theories, your silly made up insults for people who disagree with you and a selective blindness when it comes to facts. You are the forum equivalent to a child sticking it's fingers in it's ears and singing "la la la I can't hear you" when the adults say it's time for beddybyes.
Pitiful behavior.