Sumaya
- 2018-05-21
The statistics were biased. There was a time the many teachers quickly come and left the school. In one simple sentence it was due to a teacher called Mr.Martin’s father passed away.
Jack Upton
- 2016-09-26
A good point. That is why I am free to make a comment just like you. The internet is not controlled by me - fair point - nor you....
freedom
- 2016-09-25
it is good to read posts on here about poor schools!
its a big decision to move to another country and many schools in China treat education as a front to get money from students and treat teachers as dogs, there is a need for people to be able to find the good ones and warn others of the bad ones
so do not try to censor the internet, it is not controlled by u
freedom is a beautiful thing
Edmund Trebus
- 2016-09-22
What stops anybody naming anybody? Perhaps it shows the quality of character of some of of the bloggers?
Or perhaps the quality of expats in Shenzhen? That place attracts the rogues and long will it continue. There is a certain south african who has forged a career there who looks down on backpackers who calls himself an "eternal expat". It's a city that attracts like who follow like....
Jack
- 2016-09-22
Firstly, I find some of the accusations made about individuals on this absolutely shameful. Shenzenparty should remove such allegations. What stops anybody naming anybody? Perhaps it shows the quality of character of some of of the bloggers? Furthermore, I believe many of the ex 'teacher' applications would not be considered for interview if they applied today as the quality of teacher working here has improved over the last two years immeasurably, employing qualified and professonal hardworking teachers - fair to say, the bar has been raised. The teachers here now are mostly (if not all to be honest) young(ish) energetic and forward thinking, and the place has become a warm and pleasant place to work - most get on well both socially and professionally, local and foreign alike. The students are a pleasant lot too (and I believe many would say they enjoy attending our school and for the right reasons) but there is a significicant minority who are well out of their depth.
There are further problems too: (i) cultural clashes - some Chinese parents believe you can buy an education and their children are rarely at fault- but this is changing through better communication; (ii) This Is China - it takes time to order books, equipment, etc; there is a managemnent hierarchy that can overule decisions that many westerners find difficult to accept - screaming and shouting is not the answer though; (iii) some local teachers (not all) speak chinese far too often.
Anybody considering employment here should speak to the current international staff - many of whom have signed 2 year extensions after completing 2 years.
This school is not perfect but what school is? It is better than many international schools in Shenzhen. Parents and teachers alike should not be put off by comments made in the distant past. Some may well have had some justification, but many appear to be the ravings of people who should never really have taught to begin with.
Here is the truth about Nanshan Chinese International College or Shenzhen Nanshan Bilingual School!
The school has changed its name because the scam management of this "international school" is trying to hide the six years mistreating foreign teachers history!
Let’s just have a look at the last two academic years in CIE centre in Nanshan Chinese International College.
The school employed at the beginning of 2012/2013 academic year the following teachers:
1. Department: Math; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2013 academic year: his contract was not extended by NCIC.
2. Department: Math; Nationality: Canada; Gender: male; Status by the end of academic year in 2013: he refused to extend his contract with NCIC and he got a job at a competing school in the same city. (Very smart move!)
3. Department: Chemistry/Biology; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: female; Status by the end of 2013: she refused to extend her contract with NCIC and she went back to her country of origin.
4. Department: Economics/Business; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: female; Status by the end of 2013 academic year: she refused to extend her contract with NCIC and she went to another school.
5. Department: Economics/Business; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2013 academic year: he did not have a valid contract, stopped working after first semester in 2012. (He was not a qualified teacher)
6. Department: Physics; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2013 academic year: his contract was extended (he was nearly 70 years old at that time; not many choices for shopping around at this age, isn’t it?!).
Conclusion 1: FIVE out of SIX foreign teachers have left CIE Center of Nanshan Chinese International College. It makes 83.3% staff turnover!!
The school employed at the beginning of 2013/2014 academic year the following teachers:
1. Department: Math; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: female; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: her contract would be extended but she decided to leave NCIC.
2. Department: Math; Nationality: France; Gender: male; Status by the end 2014 academic year: he was unfairly dismissed by Youcef Ahmed Said, NCIC academic director in December 2013, during the second term of 2013/2014 academic year (He won the first hearing at the Chinese Labor Court! NCIC has appealed a few weeks ago so a lawsuit against NCIC is still in progress.)
3. Department: Chemistry/Biology; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: he refused to extend his contract with NCIC and he got a job at another country.
4. Department: Economics/Business; Nationality: Canada; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: he was dismissed after his probation period by Youcef Ahmed Said and Tim Simpson in November 2013.
5. Department: Economics/Business; Naionality: New Zealand Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: he was unfairly dismissed in February 2014 by academic director Youcef Ahmed Said and HR Manager Tina Tong (He won the first hearing at the Chinese Labor Court! NCIC has appealed a few weeks ago so a lawsuit against NCIC is still in progress.)
6. Department: Physics; Nationality: the U.K.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: he left school due to health problems (he was just about 70 years old at that time!)
7. Department: English; Nationality: Hong Kong; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: he left NCIC before the end of the academic year.
8. Department: English; Nationality: Irish; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: his contract was extended (he is married to Chinese, he couldn’t really go far with his Chinese children and “bubble houses”).
9. Department: English; Nationality: the U.S.A.; Gender: male; Status by the end of 2014 academic year: Youcef Ahmed Said, academic director of NCIC, refused to extend his contract without any given reason.
Conclusion 2: EIGHT out of NINE foreign teachers have left Nanshan Chinese International College. It makes 88.88% staff turnover!! What a lucky number!
Conclusion 3, you should be able to make up yourself by looking at the statistics of this “International College”.
P.S. The illegal employment of unqualified “substitute teachers” which did not start at the beginning of the academic year, and “students teaching students”, “teachers” opinion were not taken into account.
Further to mention about a couple of Philippine teachers who were not taken into the account also as they get 10-20 times less pay than teachers from Canada or the U.K. for instance in their home country. So they can’t say much and they are in a biased situation. Nevertheless one of Philippine well educated ladies was badly mistreated by this management team of scam artists after she had delivered an honest, hardworking teaching.
P.P.S. A research indicates that at least nine out of ten students are NOT HAPPY at Nanshan Chinese International College and the most of students do NOT have plans to return to this “International School”.
For more some visual information about the school, please visit the following website:
http://s925.photobucket.com/albums/ad97/DickTracey16/
And for more information please visit: http://www.shenzhenparty.com/place/schools/shenzhen-nanshan-bilingual-school
