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#1 Parent Louis McFarland - 2016-06-22
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It's in Taizhou, Jiangsu. Avoid the school and the city. The school doesn't pay teachers' income tax, so you have to get a Chinese friend to convert your savings. Management is a mess.

The city has absolutely NOTHING to recommend it except that it is a one-hour bus ride to Nanjing.

#2 Parent Jay McD - 2015-12-10
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Nothing has changed. Don't know if FAO is same one, but money was late when I was there last year. Not many friendly Chinese faculty. The City is not very interesting. Can't recommend it.

#3 Parent Robert Ranold - 2013-10-07
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I didn't see this until it was too late. The main campus is very pretty. BUT ( as reported earlier) pay is still 1-2 weeks late. The school is on the edge of town. Administrators act as if the foreign teachers don't exist.

The FAO? Forget it. Air head. Most students have a very low English ability. Some display serious behavioral problems while others are quite nice and helpful--- even studious.

The city is not very hospitable to strangers. You WILL be expected to participate in the Dragon Boat Festival no matter how cold and rainy, and stand on the boats to wave to cameras that are a mile away.

#4 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-24
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AWOL! Great to hear from you. Everyone wondered what happened to you! I hope you're okay!

#5 Parent AWOL - 2012-02-22
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I am the FT Ralph talks about in his 2/10 scree. I lasted a month at Jiangsu Vet. Monica and Tian lied about my contract, lied about my visa, wouldn't turn on the heat or clean up the mold. I was also told if I didn't immediately go to HK for a new Z visa they would have me jailed. The poor, deluded students were good, but unfortunately, the admin sucked, the town has nothing to offer and the people are dour and unfriendly. Run away from this place.

#6 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-11
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The school would have saved itself a lot of headaches if it would just have acted a lot more honestly

Good sentence there pal. Headaches and acting honestly, or not doing so, are what cause problems.

I don't believe they know how to act honestly towards foreigners, just not in their veins to do so imho....

#7 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-11
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LOL! No, not getting defensive. I do appreciate your input.

The school would have saved itself a lot of headaches if it would just have acted a lot more honestly. Now it must contend with the bad PR that it has brought upon itself. If it has not hired another FT by now, it never will. In fact, I would not have made the problems public if the school would have just written a simple letter that I can use to account for my time spent (18 months).

#8 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-11
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No need to get defensive man, I am actually on your side. I am going through similar issues with my fao, so called "apartment", and so on.

I am just biding my time and riding it out. I harbour grudges, which they will soon realize...to their ultimate detriment.

Cheers
SMGS

#9 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-10
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It isn't benign neglect. Late payment is just the school's attempt to control us. The Chinese teachers are paid on time. Why not the FTs? None of the other FTs at other public schools are paid late.

The school was ready to give me the boot for standing my ground. They brought in another FT from another province. The school didn't even clean up the apartment when he moved in. He complained about the conditions too. He was there a week before they gave him his contract to sign. There were numerous changes to the one that he was sent to inspect. He said nothing about that because there was nowhere for him to go at that point. Because he was in the country on an F visa, he was required to go to HK to secure a Z visa (at his expense). He had been told that he could work on an F visa. Two weeks after he signed his contract, he was given a copy which, in my opinion, was not fully executed. There was no signature of any officer or administrator on the contract, just the usual red chop.

The guy said that he was going to HK to get his visa, but he never returned. He was smart. I didn't have to tell him anything; he figured it out for himself.

This was not my first Chinese school. I am accustomed to the usual sloppiness of Chinese schools and administrators. I can distinguish between sloppiness and general dislike. These people don't like westerners. The neighboring colleges provided foreign teachers with tickets to the Performing Arts Center. We were never offered anything like that.

Eighteen months of those people was enough.

#10 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-10
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He said, "Maybe never."

I just read your post, and your problems sound very much like my current problems with my FAO and Chinese staff. I used to think it was just benign neglect, but now I know they are pissing on me without the courtesy of calling it rain....yeah I am quoting avatar, but that line is pretty much spot on for dealing with these kinds of people.

My internet was off for 3 days on campus recently, they knew full well I was the only one here, as the security guard at the gate doesn't have a PC or laptop, yet noone bothered to even let me know, when I complained I was told it maybe off for a full week, until the school restarts...

Stand your ground, don't let them grind you down, if it gets too bad...vote with your feet, there are some wonderful FAO's out there, but they are just in a minority alas!

#11 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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I wouldn't have bought the microwave, but after I asked for the school to replace it, the FAO's lackey told me that he didn't think that anything would satisfy me. He was still p*ssed off that I dragged all of my moldy clothing to the City FAO to complain about the disaster in the FT's apartments a few weeks before. The FAO herself wouldn't go to the City FAO (she had to take care of her baby), but the lackey did. He could make no decisions about anything, so the City FAO guy had to keep calling the school FAO to get answers. In the end, I asked the guy at the City FAO if he thought that I had a legitimate complaint. He agreed that I did. I also asked him when he thought that the air conditioning would be turned on.

He said, "Maybe never."

The FAO lackey still didn't get it. When we left the City FAO's office, he told me that I needed to learn more about Chinese culture.

--- Which part? The continual lying or total disregard for others?

When repairmen finally showed up to fix the air conditioner, they knocked on my door to let me know that they were going to the roof to fix it. They were carrying a hammer and a screw driver. I am no expert in air conditioning, but I know that you can't do much with a hammer and a screw driver. Apparently, neither had a key to the door that would allow them to access the door to the roof, so they spent the morning trying to remove the lock on the door. When 11:30 arrived, they disappeared and never came back. When a cold front moved in two weeks later, the A/C was turned on.

When the heat wasn't turned on, I went back to the City FAO. I didn't bother saying anything to the school. I met the vice-director who was very concerned. She and the guy that i spoke to a month before went to the school to talk to the FAO. Of course, by the time they arrived, the heat was turned on. Nevertheless, we walked to the FAO and they were somewhat surprised that there was a bridge across the moat, but the latch and lock was on the campus side. Then, they called the FAO and found out that the FAO was at home taking care of her baby AGAIN. They wanted me to speak with the FAO lackey. I told them that if it turned into a Chinese language meeting, I would leave. They assured me that everyone would speak English. When we got to the FAO, no English was spoken, so I left.

Those SOBs could afford to throw huge parties in their four-star hotel, but they couldn't pay for the electricity to run the heater or air conditioner for the foreign teachers.

#12 Parent San Migs - 2012-02-08
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Thanks for your posting here!

Is it just me or is the public esl sector getting worse by the day?

FAO's seem to be blind to the needs of FT's and downright troublesome in fact!

I feel your pain on the apartment, it's an uphill struggle to get acceptance of what should be clean and what isnt!

so I bought a new one myself.

Never buy anything unless it's something outside of the contract. The only things I have bought for myself here are a toaster and a coffee maker, because I like to make sandwiches and fresh coffee at breakfast. Anything else I present receipts for, if they won't repair/replace it.

#13 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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And another!

#14 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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another pic.

#15 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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and another pic

#16 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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Yet another pic!

#17 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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More to come!

#18 Parent Ralph - 2012-02-08
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Several good reasons for not working here:

• The FAO doesn’t answer her phone and she does not respond to emails.

• Three of my predecessors left with the stigma of one kind of moral impropriety or another attached to their departure. No one could verify any of the allegations. None of the Chinese faculty or students to whom I spoke had any knowledge of the allegations, nor did they mention any improprieties on the part of previous teachers. The FAO at one point suggested that I was “playing with twenty-four year-old girls.” Then she told me that there was “considerable conjecture” that I was married. She would not tell me with whom she engaged in such conjecture. She did tell me that it wasn’t anyone I know. [WTF?] Before I left the school, I found out that a former foreign teacher from that school made the allegations.

• The FAO gossips with foreign teachers.

• The apartment in which you will live is behind the hotel that the school owns. You will be awakened in the middle of the night by employees going to and from the adjacent apartment in which they live. Trucks bringing groceries to the hotel usually arrive at about 1:00 a.m..

• The air conditioning is turned off in June because the college doesn’t want to pay for the utilities. I was told that the central air conditioning was broken and that no repairmen could be found.

• You will not be reimbursed for your airfare into China if you fly from out-of-country unless you sign for a second year (as I did). Then, you will be required to fly to the place of origin. Then the school will pay for your ticket to return. That really isn’t reimbursement.

• Apparently, the air conditioning remains off until the first week of October. When I returned from the summer vacation, my entire apartment was moldy. (See photos). Clothes and shoes were ruined, and the school would not reimburse me for replacing them. The FAO said that it would cost 15,000 yuan to fix the air conditioning. She could not write a check for that amount, she said. (Since when is the FAO responsible for school maintenance?). The apartment building has three stories. One second-story apartment and both third-story apartments escaped the cause of the mold damage. An inspection of the damage to three apartments suggests that while the teachers were gone for the summer, someone turned on the water in the apartment above mine and let it overflow for a long period of time. The watermarks suggest that about 1 ½ inches of water covered the floors. The FAO maintained that humidity was the cause, and that the school was not responsible.

• My microwave caught fire. I reported the incident to the FAO. No one investigated the fire, and I was not given a new microwave, so I bought a new one myself.

• The heat in the building is not turned on until the first freeze. Even after the central heat is turned on, the heat that is produced is only a few degrees higher than the outside.

• Garbage pickup takes place whenever one of the local trash pickers comes to pick through it and take most of it away. Neither the hotel service nor the school will pick up the trash. At one point, the trash was piled about four feet high. One morning I killed a persistent rat with a broom stick.

• The hotel workers will throw their trash on the steps of the foreign teachers’ apartment steps. I found a bag of garbage and human feces on my window ledge.

• If your contract says that you will receive a bonus if your students make good remarks about you, don’t believe it. I saw no such bonus, though I was very popular among the students who did come to class every day (about half in one class. In the other class, every student came to class).

• I attempted to administer a final exam to a class twice but failed. The first time, only six out of thirty-two students came to class for the test, even though I reminded the class of the test date during at least six consecutive classes before the day of the test. On the second attempt, I entered the room to meet near-riot conditions, and promptly left the class. A student told me that a work/group leader told the class that they didn’t have to take the class. They were angry because I required them to take the test. I succeeded in administering the test. Even though I had never seen most of the students since the first week (some I had never seen at all., and they could produce no identification), most of the class scored in the upper ninety percentile, including students who could not respond when their names were called.

• The school is far from convenient shopping. Forget about convenient dining out. The buses stop running at 6:30 in the evening. You may be told that you will be given a bicycle. When I arrived, mine was broken, and when I needed to use it later in the year, the FAO refused to have it fixed, saying that the bicycle was not in the contract. (I found this strange considering the fact that she bought bicycles for three other teachers when they arrived).

• You will not conduct classes on the campus that is close to your apartment. You will teach on the north campus, a post-Stalin era institution. YOUR class room will have broken desks and minimal (if any) AV equipment.

• To get to the north campus, you will have to walk a considerable distance from your apartment to the bus stop and HOPE that the bus is on-schedule. That means that if you have an 8:00 class, you will need to leave your apartment no later than 7:00 a.m. to be sure that you will get there on-time. It will take you about ten minutes to walk to the bus stop. The bus ride is about fifteen minutes. Then you will have to get off the bus and walk another FULL city block because no bus goes directly to the north campus. The commute may take more or less time, depending upon how much road construction is underway.

• There is a security problem with the apartment. I always lock everything up before I leave. ONCE, I left my personal computer on to run diagnostics. I also failed to lock my top desk drawer. When I arrived back at my apartment, I found two other applications open (Skype and Word). I also found my overseas phone turned on, and the phone number directory showing. My Verizon statement indicated that roaming charges began after I left my apartment. That was also the day that a black-and-white checkered scarf disappeared.

• Though the school may tell you that it does not have the money to fix the air conditioning, it DOES have money to throw lavish anniversary parties and faculty-and-family Christmas parties to which you will not be invited.

• You will NOT be able to convert rmb to your home currency yourself, no matter what you do. You will need the help of an adult Chinese person to do it for you. You cannot make the conversion yourself because the FAO does not remit income taxes, and she will NOT help you with the process. I asked for information about paying taxes and providing documentation AT LEAST four times. Three times I was ignored. The fourth time I was given two addresses written in Chinese. Both were the wrong address, but I did find the tax office with he help of a resident of Taizhou. I found that I am not even on the books, so without the help of the FAO, I couldn’t convert rmb. (Even if you have a friend to help you, it will eventually turn into a nightmare if you go to the same bank too many times).

• If you do have to teach a class on the campus that is near your apartment, you will find that the canal that separates your apartment from the campus has a bridge crossing it. You will be very disappointed to learn that the bridge is not there for your convenience, but for the convenience of the administrators who eat lunch at the hotel and for the convenience of the students who work at the hotel. The latch and the lock is on the other side of the bridge, so unless someone leaves the gate open, you will have to walk much farther to class than is really necessary.

• I taught there for three terms. Pay was on-time or early only five of those months. The Chinese teachers were paid on-time.

• I really didn’t want to have problems with the FAO. I asked to speak to the school president through an interpreter. I was told that I couldn’t talk to the school president because he had just quit his job.

• If you plan to renew your contract, be sure to mention it to the FAO. One FT assumed that he would be renewed, but wasn't told that he would not be renewed until about a month before the end of the term. The FAO didn't have the decency to tell him until the last minute.

The city has nothing to recommend it. There are a couple of deafening discos with laser lights, and a few decent restaurants, that that is about all there is. The locals aren't particularly friendly.

#19 Parent Non Sequitur - 2011-11-04
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For years, the school was under continual construction, but the buildings were never finished owing to an apparent funding problem. Teachers live in poorly-maintained housing provided by an adjacent hotel. I drive through the campus every few months out of curiosity because I taught there about four years ago. Many buildings are finished but are not in use, apparently due to low enrollment. It is a LONG walk to the bus stop if one must work at the other (I think north) campus. Past teachers complained about an incompetent FAO who often paid late.

An ongoing mold problem in the teachers' quarters is a continual complaint as is the sudden breakdowns of the A/C and heat during the hottest and coldest months. Heat and A/C may remain "broken" until the weather becomes more moderate. Class rooms are not heated or cooled. Winters can be brutal, and late spring in Taizhou often brings terrible apartment-flooding rain. The canal next to the apartments prohibits opening the windows because there are no screens on the windows.

I will never teach there again for any amount of money.

The city is a wasteland, worse than anything I've seen in the U.K., though by Chinese standards, it is in the process of modernization. Shopping is limited. The locals don't like foreigners, even though foreign manufacturers provide a lot of jobs.

Not recommended.

#20 Parent Nai Nai - 2011-10-20
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It's in Taizhou, between Nanjing and Shanghai. The city sucks. The school is not worth considering. I worked there a few years ago. You may have to work at two campuses that are a fair bus ride apart or worse, work at the old campus that takes 45 minutes by bus. I had a morning and an afternoon class twice per week on the old campus. I lived at the new campus, so I had to hang around a seedy, dirty old campus for three hours between classes. Pay was usually a week to ten days late. Not recommended.

#21 Parent Raoul F. Duke - 2011-10-19
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Don't know the school. Uh.....what city is it in? Jiangsu is a Province....

Laowai - 2011-10-18
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Does anyone know anything about this school or the city?

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