Is this thread about "all private language mills" or "the crappy world of ESL in China"? Here you come derailing.

The fact is that you and other posters on here continue to support the crappy world of ESL in
China. I don't just mean the private sector, I also now mean public universities in
China.

Aside Dr Turnjakunen, his aliases, you and perhaps another handful of unreliable pseudos, there're very few trusted messages for some apparent reasons. "Rubbish" here, "rubbish" there, what do you think you can achieve with that kind of debate?

Turnoi, myself and others do not. We moved on and can easily support ourselves without having
to rely on the rubbish ESL business for a living, and never needed ESL.

Don't suggest but follow topics and respect everyone's opinion.

My suggestion to you would be to get some other skills and do something constructive with
your life. Stop trying to defend the indefensible.

Funny you've been using the word "moral" for a while now.

You can take the moral high ground like Turnoi, myself and others, or you can become like the
Chinese and wumao types in China.