The Brit has moved to the Philippines now. He didn't go to jail, the police would have been looking for men of Asian appearance. No, I have not bought any Xmas presents. I don't believe in gift giving, it reinforces the entitlement mentality most people have these days. Interesting that you go to Aldi, I I go there also here in Australia.Some good food products there. I know Clark's also, the shoe place, I think they are related to Clark Rubber also.

If he is really ripping people off in China he may get away with it for some time. If he is doing it in Thailand however in a place like Bangkok or Pattaya he will get fucked up by some heavy hitter in the not to distant future.

Thailand is a different kettle of fish to China. Those who don't pay their bills, deceive and mislead others can expect to be the target ( of often violent ) retaliation. The Thai's will even follow people around for several days until they get them into a situation where they are vulnerable.

Atillio has his pic all over the internet now. For sure it would not be hard to track him down.

These people ( dishonest and criminal recruiters ) are just like cockroaches. You get rid of a few of them and others pop up elsewhere.

I notice in some of their ads the office number has an 020 prefix. I can't remember if that's Guangzhou or Shenzhen. In any case, it would not be hard to track down this little grub one would think.

I wonder if the TC owner was informed why he was beaten up? Or was the Brit leaving the country anyway? I wonder if the Brit thought of damage limitations to himself. bad enough losing his wages, but to then be locked up by the police!

Got all your presents bought. I took the wife to Clarks shoe shop yesterday. It took her(took equals allowed her to walk two miles pushing the pram) about one hour to select two pairs but then she bought me a pair for coming I guess, although I was quite happy sitting in the warmth on some leather bound poofs watching Esther reeking havoc- she seems to like singing gay songs in Chinese when she's causing trouble.

Yesterday before all that I visited Aldi on my tod as Esther hasn't been well. It was all about making things easier for myself, so I selected already cooked lamb in mint- turkey with cranberry-roast parsnips- roast potatoes. The wife works over Christmas and I prepare the food. She seems to enjoy getting up at five and peddling through the freezing rain and sleet. There's a lot to be said for shipping home a Chinese wife as long as it's not one of them gold-diggers. So we will have two days (24th and 25th) rest from the brutal regime of jogging (she does a thousand skips every night too)

They probably don't really exist. However just the possibility of being beaten up by a group of nasty laowai can instill fear in a Chinese.

I know a training school owner in Nanning who was beaten up in 2014 by two Korean guys on the order of a Brit for non-payment of salary.

This was by pure chance however, the Brit had the good luck of spotting the TC owner and his GF at a restaurant near the "Queen's Head" pub one weeknight. A phone call was made and the training school owner was beaten and his GF slapped in the face several times. The panels of his Lexus were smashed in and the front windscreen. I was watching 150 metres away.

A great outcome, LOL!

Yes, SB, but with respect this notion of Beijing Blacklist bods working over evil Chinese criminals who harm westerners is all wishful thinking. These bespectacled characters never get any further than their keyboards. It was an idea heavily taken in and sold by Turnoi, and I have never believed a word of it.

I have never believed a word of it either. Wishful thinking, that's all it is.

Well, so he is in Thailand also? If so he better watch his back as there will be people looking for him, especially in Bangkok or Pattaya.

Precious info. Thanks.
I googled the name Attilio Infante and found:

1- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/today/posts/attilio-infante-1340421b

2- His new website http://akmine.com/ "ARE YOU CRYPTO INVESTED?" offers partnerships from $1000 to $5500

3- From http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/1120435.Inventive_teenager_in_a_world_of_his_own/?ref=arc
See picture below
12th January 2007 Inventive teenager in a world of his own
AN entrepreneurial Lytchett Matravers teenager has created an on-line game world that already has almost 2,500 users, and is gaining more every day.
Attilio Infante launched virtual world, Take it Beyond an Adventure, or TBA, from his bedroom last August.
The 17-year-old Poole Grammar School student said the site, www.tbadventure.com, was getting about 25,000 hits a month.
He added: "So far there have been 2,418 playing and it goes up by around 40 a day."
Attilio is helped by a team of 10 volunteers, from Poole and around the world, to design and maintain the fantasy environment, which he describes as "a world where you can be anyone you choose and do anything you like".
He said: "You can go to the beach, city, desert, woods or mountains, the weather changes according to the time of year. For instance, over Christmas I added snow and Christmas items such as Santa hats and snowmen."
Visiting the world is free although there is the option of paying a one-off fee of £9 to unlock additional services in the game.
The sixth-former, who also runs a website creating and computer building company, Digitil, from his home, said he had been working on the project in his spare time for two years altogether.
"I was curious about websites and I read up about them on the internet," he said.
"I then learned about the language of the server software, and eventually created my own server.
"The project has taught me everything."
At the moment he is working on mountains and volcanoes within the game, and creating new activities such as cooking, fishing, mining and exploring.
But in the future the A-level student plans to put the project on hold during a gap year and while he is at university studying French and Italian.
"The website will run itself, and I can leave it as a possible income," he added. "My future plans are to make it possible for anyone to create their own world using the software I have created so anyone can experience the fantastic feeling of owning their own world."

4- Old post from https://www.scotsman.com/news/uk/burning-desire-for-fantasy-life-1-1334628 Burning desire for fantasy life Published: 11:57 Share this article THOUSANDS of people are logging on to visit a virtual world created by a British schoolboy. Attilio Infante, 17, launched Take it Beyond an Adventure from his bedroom in August and it already has 2500 users.

5- From http://englishjobfinder.com/userads/1087-findworkabroad.html, it seems that englishjobfinder.com might be one of his sites too. Created in 2007, the registration for this website, at http://whois.domaintools.com/englishjobfinder.com, is (no idea who kevin cope is, maybe it's Attilio's AKA):
Admin Name: kevin cope
Admin Organization: Right In Front Marketing & Promotions
Admin Street: Apartdo De Correos
Admin Street: 177
Admin City: Muro De Alcoy
Admin State/Province: Alicante
Admin Postal Code: 03820
Admin Country: ES
Admin Phone: +34.000000000000
Admin Phone Ext:
Admin Fax:
Admin Fax Ext:
Admin Email: info@englishjobfinder.com

6- The name Attilio Infante appears at http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/122269/tba-take-it-beyond-an-adventure "Have fun guys and im glad to be back with the MMORPG.com community. Well guys have fun and my ingame name is oldknight also the owner of Digitil Entertainment and TBA is Attilio Infante his ingame name is Til.
Read more at http://forums.mmorpg.com/discussion/122269/tba-take-it-beyond-an-adventure#c6htSlGp8bzdEEXu.99 "

7- Old entry on ShenzhenStuff http://www.shenzhenstuff.com/profile/AttilioInfante:
Attilio Infante's Page
Last View: 9:32AM, 26 Jul 12
Last On: 3:29PM, 7 May 11
Profile Information
Relationship Status:
In a Relationship
Hometown/Country:
Bournemouth
Where are you now?
Guangzhou
Job:
Find Work Abroad CEO
I'm looking for...
Friends, Networking, Business Partners, Language Exchange

8- This guy knows everything about work visas in China - From his website: https://china.findworkabroad.com/visa/733

9- I will post another picture of him on the next post because this website only allows one pic per post.

We all know how crappy these clowns are. Not even worth writing about them. Just AVOID!

Remember folks that teaching in China with on an F or L visa is ILLEGAL! You will be put in a Chinese jail!!!!

This site should not accept wumao posts. It's a disgrace! Mods, if you see this, please take your social responsibility seriously: The wumao posts that you accept online will harm a lot of teachers.

I just got a job with them, good transparent service. Cheers Find Work Abroad team

Hi!
here's my 2 cents on Find Work Abroad after finding a great job this year, i've been working in Shenyang for 6 months and i honestly can say it's been a wonderful experience. During the recruitment process I found Zoe to be great and helped me a lot, she matched my requirements excellently, was proficient and very well organised, also very friendly and a very good communicator.

Obviously pushed their luck too far. Don’t worry, we are still following you, haha.

The magic is to just not deal with recruiters at all and deal with employers directly.

Thank you. You are probably right. I need to get used to "it". But this is by far the worst of the last 6 recruiters I have been dealing with. They are arrogant and rude. And then, no reply.... Have you found a magical way to get respect from Chinese recruiters?

Well, I don't think that their respect is totally necessarry; they either come up with the goods or they don't. I myself like to remain on the moral high ground, keep my cool, be polite myself, and play the numbers game; by the time you get a few more recruiters under your belt, one of them will come up with what you want and present you with something half suitable. The magic comes in getting past the wretched agent to where you are passed over to the fao of the school, and it's him or her who you should argue the toss with(in a cool calm deliberate way) So; you could just agree in principle with the recruiter, because the school will want to speak with you and you the school. In short, you want to talk to the organ grinder and not his monkey- don't try and get everything agreed on with the monkey. Therefore, for example, how I deal with these matters might be-if I need 7000RMB and the recruiter says it's 6000, I might well initially accept, so I get the chance to speak to him-that-matters, and tell him, that I think the job would suit me but I need 7500 yuan-now, he may well anguish over it and offer me the 7000 that I actually require; especially if he is trying it on, and the other teachers are really getting a higher wage. Cheers&beers.

I am very disappointed by this "recruiter". Kinda make be believe that everything that was written on this board about recruiters is an understatement.
I sent them my resume, they told me about a job at a school in Shanghai which is the very city where I want to go and teach so I told them I was interested. They sent a shitty "agreement" with conditions that I would never accept. I sent them a list of points that I did not agree with. No reply. Nothing at all.
I guess they are looking for gullible first-timers who will feel lucky to even have someone in China reading their resume.
Ain't me, Baby.
Spare yourself the trouble: Don't bother with this band of low-lives.

Hello Catherine
I don't know about 'very disappoined' you sound more, beside yourself with rage-am I right or am I right? You did well to question the disagreeable contract you received, and to present the recruiter with reservations you had; however, and depending on what kind of recruiter you refer to, it might not be its fault, as it itself is only offering what it is told to offer by the school which would employ you. As for a Chinaman not answering you further, well, you had better get used to that, it's a little trait they have, nay even a logic, which dictates 'what's the point of further contact if it's clear there's nothing in it for them; just their way I'm afraid; so, don't get upset about it, just find another recruiter.

Find work abroad are very well known in GZ for working together with low lever employers and scamming people.

Don't sent your resume to this Chinsese recruiter "Find Work Abroad" apply@findworkabroad.com; they will fill your mailbox with unwanted job offers and will eventually cheat you with bait & switch (offering a nice job and switching to a job nobody wants when you arrive in China)... and they will keep spamming your mailbox....