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Raoul Duke - 2008-02-23

Uh, hello?

Yeah, we do ask for a confirmation message when people join the Saloon. It helps keep out the hit-and-run posters, the unconscionable hotheads, the people just coming on to promote something, and other people we don't want there. This process has worked very, very well for us for over 4 years now. The Saloon is small becuase we LIKE IT that way. We form bonds and build a community, and we don't get the nastiness that plagues most other such forums.

In this case, I've been embroiled in an online war with Frank Zhang...a war in which Choatle and I have been allies. Frank is a guy with a long documented history of using a multitude of names online.

Under these circumstances, when I saw the name 'Choatle' as a sign-up it did not seem unreasonable to ask him to write a few words about himself. It gave me a chance to look for Frank's visible-with-the-naked-eye-from-the-moons-of-Neptune fractured English...and it's really the same task we ask of all memberships applicants. 2-3 sentences is enough.

However, I got a really angry and outraged response instead.
OK, whatever.

We have members from around the world at the Saloon, and being a native speaker is NOT a requirement for membership. I simply don't want Frank (or any of his multitudinous sock puppets) wiggling in over there.

But based upon the response I got, I can understand that asking him to write something in reasonable English was a touchy subject. I honestly thought it WAS from Frank Zhang until I saw the post above.

Either way, I consider the outcome to be a confirmation of our appliocation process...and a bullet dodged.

Messages In This Thread
Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Larry Romanoff -- 2005-09-09
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Prof.Dr.David Ngin Sian Pau -- 2009-05-14
Frank Zhang ~ The scorn of all TESL teachers in China ~ period. -- Frank -- 2008-01-30
I am just the REAL Frank Zhang -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-31
Re: I am just the REAL Frank Zhang -- Frank -- 2008-01-31
Re: I am just the REAL Frank Zhang -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-01-31
Re: I am just the REAL Frank Zhang -- Chico -- 2008-01-31
Re: I am just the REAL Frank Zhang -- Brad -- 2008-04-01
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Researchers -- 2008-01-24
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Andy -- 2008-01-25
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Choatle -- 2008-01-26
Don't Do It! -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2008-01-25
Re: Don -- Researchers -- 2008-01-25
Research and Safety -- Yingwen Laoshi -- 2008-01-26
Re: Research and Safety -- Prof.Dr.David Ngin Sian Pau -- 2008-01-28
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- ZHOU -- 2008-01-22
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Choatle -- 2008-01-23
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Bob -- 2008-01-25
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Choatle -- 2008-01-26
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Xu me -- 2008-01-25
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Bob -- 2008-01-25
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Choatle -- 2008-01-26
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al -- Dianne -- 2008-01-23
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al - ESL school review -- JimBob -- 2007-05-22
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al - ESL school review -- Bob -- 2008-01-26
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-01-31
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang; James Zhang, et al - ESL school review -- Frank Zhang/Alin Buuer/James Zhang -- 2008-01-27
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Choatle -- 2008-01-26
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Bob -- 2008-01-27
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Choatle -- 2008-01-27
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Bob -- 2008-01-28
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- eng.teacher -- 2008-01-30
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Bob -- 2008-01-31
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Choatle -- 2008-02-01
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- eng.teacher -- 2008-02-01
Re: Alin Buuer; Frank Zhang, Dont fall for the sign the contract when you get here scam -- Bob -- 2008-01-26
Add "Sang Xing" to the long list of Frank Zhang aliases, and then run like hell! - ESL school review -- Old and Tired -- 2007-05-22
Re: Add "Sang Xing" to the long list of Frank Zhang aliases, and then run like hell! - ESL school re -- ricky -- 2008-09-13
Happy Mid-Autumn Festival to Frank Zhang -- Derick Nidga Nyonka -- 2008-09-15
Sang Xing helped me get a wonderful job last week -- david potter -- 2008-09-13
Re: Sang Xing helped me get a wonderful job last week -- Harry Potter -- 2008-09-14
"Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Old and Tired -- 2007-07-06
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Prof.Dr.David Ngin Sian Pau -- 2008-01-26
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Choatle -- 2008-01-27
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-28
Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-27
REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-27
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Ozy -- 2008-01-28
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-29
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Ozy -- 2008-01-29
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-01-30
How to get a Chinese visa? -- Frank Zhang -- 2008-01-30
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Choatle -- 2008-01-29
Re: REAL Frank Zhang here telling everybody truth -- Charles Jensen -- 2008-01-29
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Diana -- 2008-01-27
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-01-30
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Diana -- 2008-01-30
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-01-31
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Diana -- 2008-01-31
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-02-21
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Choatle -- 2008-02-23
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-02-23
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Choatle -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Gingermeggs -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Choatle -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Gingermeggs -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- AMonk -- 2008-02-23
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Choatle -- 2008-02-24
Re: "Sang Xing/Frank Zhang" surfaces again -- and again! - ESL school review -- Gingermeggs -- 2008-02-23
additional information and correction regarding this rip-off agent - ESL school review -- Old and Tired -- 2007-05-22
The saga continues... - ESL school review -- Old and Tired -- 2007-05-24
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