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Raoul Duke - 2008-03-07

What a moron.

Yes, we do list a few jobs on the web site, as a service to our members and readers. We're pretty open about this; it's right there on the publicly-accessible part of our forum, so I don't really understand why you felt compelled to "dig up 'evidence'" for something that's right out there in the open.

This does NOT, however, make me or my site "a recruiter". Here's why:

- We don't take any money at all for our ads....from either the employers or the applicants. It's all free. A recruiter is someone who matches up jobs and applicants as a business- and this clearly does not apply to either the site or myself personally.

- Our ads all list direct contact info for the actual final employer, and we don't contact, negotiate, or have any part whatsoever in any hiring processes. We post the ads, once approved, and we're done with it. The rest is all handled directly by the school and the teacher. We don't even know about any subsequent events unless a member posts something about it...which I don't think I've ever seen happen. Recruiters, wanting to protect their financial interests in the hiring, usually conceal the school and the teacher from each other until the deal is done.

- Unlike pretty much all recruiters (and indeed unlike most other ESL-related websites), we don't carry just any old job someone wants us to tout. The majority of our ads are in fact submitted by members who are current or former employees of the listed school, or otherwise have personal knowledge of the employer. Jobs from employers coming in from outside are personally screened by me before they're posted; I search for teacher reviews coming from the school in question. If the job description shows a total bonehead deal for the teacher, or if the employer has a bad history of teacher comments, we don't accept the ad. Furthermore, if any member of our site knows of a problem with a listed school, the ad is immediately yanked until further investigation can be conducted.

- And again, I haven't exactly been quiet about my opinion of recruiters- ALL recruiters. It's not hard to find. You will not find any real evidence anywhere that I or my site have ever accepted any money at all for recruiting or placing people in jobs.

So: the post above is pure nonsense. A brainless, clumsy attempt at a smear.
You're going to have to do a lot better than this...

Messages In This Thread
Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- ARVG -- 2008-02-26
I met Frank Zhang today, I want to say thanks to him, He is a very helpful man -- Bryan Williams -- 2008-03-12
Re: I met Frank Zhang today, I want to say thanks to him, He is a very helpful man -- Jerome -- 2008-03-13
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- pete -- 2008-03-02
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Jerome -- 2008-03-02
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-03
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Sherlock Holmes -- 2008-03-05
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Batman -- 2008-03-04
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Edward -- 2008-02-27
I support Mr. Frank Zhang -- Andy Jose Terry -- 2008-02-26
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- JNET -- 2008-02-26
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-02-26
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Edward -- 2008-02-27
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Sherlock Holmes -- 2008-03-01
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Jerome -- 2008-03-01
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-03-01
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-05
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-03-07
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-06
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-08
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-08
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-09
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-10
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-03-02
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Mike and Jane -- 2008-03-05
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-03-07
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-08
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Raoul Duke -- 2008-03-08
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-08
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-06
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-07
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Sherlock Holmes -- 2008-03-05
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Choatle -- 2008-03-06
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- English teacher -- 2008-03-07
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Sherlock Holmes -- 2008-03-02
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Edward -- 2008-03-01
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- joker -- 2008-03-01
Re: Vote to rename this the "Frank Zhang discussion forum" -- Gingermeggs -- 2008-02-27
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