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doesitmatter - 2009-05-09
In response to EF Changchun (Owen)

Your post, Owen, regarding EF in Changchun, is inaccurate at it's core. Your assumption that teaching EFL for 40 hours a week can be compared to a normal 40 hour job is way off base. It is common knowledge in the ESL/EFL profession that any teaching hours beyond 25 is time wasted and a sure path to teacher burn out. You don't seem to realize that teachers need time for lesson planning - at least if they are going to be creative about said planning. Moreover, as Silverboy pointed out, organizations such as EF will make unwarranted demands on your time that include English Corners and the like. Even without such demands on free time, a teacher will be minimally effective if made to teach 40 hours. The only reason that EF contracts teachers to teach that many hours is so that they can save money. As usual with EFL in China, especially in private schools, it's not about the students, it's about the bank account.

"The ESL industry is littered with incompetent teachers and evil schools."

That's a quote from your post. How can one take you seriously when it's obvious that you don't know the difference between ESL and EFL? Please tell us about one ESL school in your country that is littered with incompetent teachers and evil schools. I taught ESL to adult immigrants for several years in America. In addition, I attended national and state conferences and participated in federal and state sponsored workshops. I've worked at three different colleges in America and prior to that did extensive volunteer work with immigrant organizations and literacy councils that focused on English skills for newly arrived immigrants. Never once did I hear anyone complain about the incompetence of their colleagues or the evilness of their schools. Granted there was often communication about how ESL schools and immigrant organizations could improve; however, I see that as a positive.

Pardon the above digression, but I think it's worth noting here that your lack of experience in this field has clouded your perception. On the other hand, you have pretty good writing skills. I would bet that EF Changchun has paid you to put those skills to use by writing a glowing report about them.

Nevertheless, I think you've got a long row to hoe if you're going to convince anyone in this forum, especially those with years of experience under their belt, that EF in China is a reputable school. Good luck with that. Personally, I wouldn't work for them even if they were the last school on Earth.

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EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- englishgibson -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-06
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- englishgibson -- 2010-09-06
Re: EF Changchun -- doesitmatter -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Kevin Sharpe -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Burnout -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Kevin Sharpe -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Burnout -- 2011-04-11
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Turino -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Turino -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Second Voice -- 2009-05-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Second Voice -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- eflfree -- 2009-05-10
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