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Owen - 2009-05-09
In response to Re: EF Changchun (doesitmatter)

Hi,

Your assumption that teaching EFL for 40 hours a week can be compared to a normal 40 hour job is way off base.

Yeah, I mustn't have made myself clear in my post but the school only asks for approx 22 contact hours per week, maybe 24 in the 5 months of intensive period but many teachers were not on a full schedule. The total time they recommend you work is 40 hours which is ample time to prepare and teach lessons and include all of the other duties of a teacher.

How can one take you seriously when it's obvious that you don't know the difference between ESL and EFL?

You are 100% accurate in saying I never knew the difference between ESL and EFL, frankly I thought they referred to the same thing and to be honest it has never been an issue for me. I don't think finding this one error proves that I am completely wrong to give my opinion about a place where I worked.

I would bet that EF Changchun has paid you to put those skills to use by writing a glowing report about them.

I would like to think that I have some morals left so no, I would never write something like that for money. If they want to give me some money as gratitude I'd be delighted but I think I've attracted more bad attention than good.

I think you've got a long row to hoe if you're going to convince anyone in this forum

I'm not writing any of this to convince people on this forum. The people here have their own opinions formed from their own experiences. I'm writing this in case there are new teachers looking for work who are scared by all the negativity. All I can say to them is that I am happy to answer any questions about my experiences at EF Changchun (and only Changchun, as I cannot speak for any other EF school). If anyone wants to contact me then just look up my email above and email me.

As far as I'm concerned EF Changchun are certainly not the best school to work for in China but they do not deserve to be cast in among the Tianshuos who literally abuse the system. Companies like Tianshuo apparently break contract and really screw people. In my experience EF Changchun (again, only that school, and no other EF) works according to the contract that they send out.

Owen

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EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- englishgibson -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-04
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- EF Hater -- 2010-09-06
Re: EF Changchun -- Chris -- 2010-09-05
Re: EF Changchun -- englishgibson -- 2010-09-06
Re: EF Changchun -- doesitmatter -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Kevin Sharpe -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Dragonized -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Burnout -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Kevin Sharpe -- 2011-04-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Burnout -- 2011-04-11
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Turino -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Tom -- 2011-04-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Turino -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Second Voice -- 2009-05-08
Re: EF Changchun -- Owen -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- Second Voice -- 2009-05-09
Re: EF Changchun -- eflfree -- 2009-05-10
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