I was just trying to put myself in your shoes. Lets just say for the sake of argument Kevin that you do believe all you say, and that you do feel that the chances of anybody working at York actually writing in at any time soon and complaining about them is unlikely- do you see where this is leading? In this case Dear Boy, it's who needs enemies when they have a friend like you situation. If things are as you say they are then this thread would become history and the only reason it can't is because of your input. This thread is kept alive by your good self, it's you who is stoking the furnace. Try and withdraw and you will surely stop this thread in its tracks if things are as you say they are. At the moment everybody is just responding to you. Or are you just doing it cos you have nowt else to do?