"Like it or not, Training Centres have long been a part of the "ESL Industry" both in China and worldwide."

Well, Brad Dear Boy, Some of us accept Training Centres, others do not; however, what side of that argument you take is unimportant when we are deciding whether or not York is any cop. There are many thousands of private outfits[in China] which do not get any flack at all on these sites and only a comparative handful that do. Most out of that handful only get a little flack but York is right up there with the worst of the worst-why do you think that is? The odds of getting where York has must be nearly equivalent to winning the UK Lottery-their prize[Yorks] being condemnation, must be righteous condemnation, the odds are overwhelmingly stacked against any other reasonable conclusion.

Where is Steven these days? He appears to be resigned to defeat-hard work swimming against the tide of the bleeding obvious-perhaps he can see the world is indeed flat-about time too.