: Remember FT's are generally not proper teachers and are generally
: employed to teach oral and converse, and not to discuss Shakespeare and anguish over his
: grammar. Real English teaching requires great emphasis on grammar, you can't get away
: from it.

Thank you for making my point! I'm not an English teacher by training, but once in the field I personally made the effort to re-educate myself about grammar rules so I could impart them to my students. Not all training centers are structured to accommodate this kind of instruction. Web is, at least more so than the other centers where I've worked. The objective in the classroom is to have the students practice using the grammar and vocabulary they have learned through courseware.

Being a native English speaker qualifies me to be a "teacher" at most training centers in China. This board is replete with examples of training centers where the instruction is so poor, any English learning should be considered miraculous! I can only address the quality of lessons and instruction at the centers where I've worked.

Do the sales people lie to close sales at Web? YES! Do some of the Chinese teachers struggle with their own grammar and pronunciation problems at Web? YES! Is Web's objective to make as much money as possible? YES! Is Web a wonderful place to work? NO! But it is the best that I have experienced in my few, short years in China. That's my experience and opinion, and that is what the original poster was asking for.