As always you remain both professional and reasonable Chinachillie and this is appreciated. Unfortunately the new DOS and ADOS ( Pugwash and mynd i ffwrdd "athro") have shown themselves to be less so. I agree that the first thread has now turned to chaos with all sorts of irrelevant nonsense being flung about but this is the nature of these public forums. As i began i will end: Shane is by no means the worst place to work but certainly has it's quirks so any potential teachers should be sure to fully understand what they are getting themselves into before committing to the year's contract.