China and the Koreas still have a long long way to go before they can call themselves consistent, civilized, conscious folks.

I would agree. I don't really consider them members of the "world community" as to be part of it, you have to participate consciously as you have already noted, but also in a civilized and reciprocal fashion. The fact is south korea and china are laughing at the rest of the world, and something needs to be done about it. A 25% tax on their exports is one initial step, and also treating their workers, the same as they treat us, eg denying them rights, like begets like and it is the only language these societies understand.