at least, there were people living there thousands of years ago

So what, there were people living in the west thousands of years ago? Mathematicians and philosophers among them, long before on a certain day in 551 BC, Lu, the sun rose over Thai Shan heralding, johnny-come-lately, Kong Qui. You haven't read your Bible or Homer, have you? I know it took the Brits long enough to commission StoneHenge, just 2 or 3 thousand years ago, but it is a nice picture. What all this has to do with more recent events of the Chinese learning evil tricks from the West, I do not know. I am not saying you're one of them, but representatives from the west in the guise of teachers are doing their part in teaching the Chinese to be lazy whingers; and these forums prove that point.