Don't listen to a word Turnoi says, that person goes on every review about any school. I doubt he worked at every school in China. Training schools in a nut shell.
-You are working there because you are not a qualified teach.
-You do not have the qualifications to teach in your home country.
-Schools abroad, but mostly China will hire you based on your native languages and other superficial factors
-Your school is a business. If you can't get over that than don't come abroad. I am sure Turnoi can hook you up with a job at the wal-mart he works at.
-Businesses are about profit. Hopefully your boss will realize good teaching results in good business. They don't always.
-The nature of the business is that there are expenses that your students tuition pay off, Ie your high salary compared to local standards, your apartment for which you do nothing for, your visa whether illegal or legit your school paid a lot of money to get you, your flight or bonus which is usually around 1,000$ US.
-Expect to work hard. These schools are not for the lazy. You will be given as many classes as possible that won't exceed your contract hours in order to cover these costs.
-If you call in sick the parents will refuse to pay tuition for that class if there is no foreigner to cover it
-So lets be clear, this isn't google, this isn't a cozy government job, its not a prestige law firm in which you are a prized recruit who is a notch above the rest.
-If you call in sick repeatedly or ask for vacation not specified in your contract your boss will say no.
-Let's remember you are taking this job because you only graduated from high school or you have a masters in philosophy which is pretty much the same thing as a high school diploma.
-I already mentioned how you are only qualified because you are a native speaker, what set you apart from the rest is you were willing to take the job.
-You do have bargaining power and a lot of teachers can put their schools feet to the fire, by threatening to quit or stop teaching.
-Remember you can be replaced. Just not right away. It takes a while to find another dumb 22 year old kid willing to take your job and get a flight over to China.
-Don't get me wrong schools will do terrible things. Here are a list of some things schools do badly:
-Pay late or dock pay against the contract although its very rare because it would be a suicidal business practice. If they actually stole your money you should go after that school on the internet. You should stay in that town city work at a competitor and let every foreigner teacher that comes to that school no whats up.
-Trick you into working illegally. By now everyone knows if they are on an F visa they are illegal. What they don't know and I talk to so many stupid idiots that have no idea how certain z visas can be illegal too. The US embassy warns you need a z visa to work in China. Excellent work government employee dude who works at the embassy probably makes 70 grand a year and will have a great pension in 5 more years when he retires after 25 years working for the US embassy providing useless information that everybody already knows.
-What they don't tell you can only work at the place sponsored by your visa. So if you work in Hangzhou and your boss sends you to another city (im not talking Hong Kong) like Beijing or Shanghai, or some random place to get your residency permit at the local police station, then you are illegal, no matter what idiots on the internet tell you about z visas. Your boss probably bribed someone at a business licensed to hire foreigners to say you work there to the police just to get your a visa. ASK TO SEE YOUR SCHOOLS LICENSE. IF THEY DO NOT HAVE ONE DON'T KID YOURSELF YOU ARE ILLEGAL!!!!
-Things not specified in the contract ie holidays: schools will screw you around on holidays unless its outlined in your contract.
-Take advantage of new teachers: There will always be an endless supply of dumb 22 year old arts students or high school graduates I can't tell the difference that are so excited to come to China for a cultural experience and get drunk and make fools of themselves and countrymen. In either case they should have gone to Japan, Korea, and Taiwan which have real culture and used to dumb foreigners like you on drunken escapades.
-Too many dumb teachers willing to accept bad jobs, low salary harsh conditions. In today's world, if you are young and a native speaker do not accept anything less than 10,000 RMB a month and no more than 25 teaching hours a week and that is high.
-By accepting a job for 9,000 or 8,000 you are not only stupid, but you are hurting others negotiating for those same jobs that are worth 10,000 or more. Some schools pay more between 10 to 13 thousand a month is the most common.
-Yes there are rare cases of people making as much as 20,000 as a head foreign teacher, but that job sucks. Don't expect your pay to go up with every passing year of experience. You are not a highly skilled engineer or trades person with an ongoing development of refined skills in a niche area of your field. You are on a time clock in Asia. You can keep building experience and skills, but after a certain age, little Johnny Political Science born in 1995 is going to come a knocking and take your job.
Things schools don't do wrong, but foreign teachers are stupid and whine like little pussies about dumb things
Communication: You are in China, Chinese is their language. Chinese people are generally disorganized compared to western standards. ITS NOT JUST YOUR SCHOOL. Go to a restaurant in China before judging your school. You and your friends order some steaks and desert at a western style restaurant don't be surprised if they screw up your order, bring your meal before your friends and you get your desert within minutes of ordering, yet your main course takes 45 minutes. Your school is going to be run by a boss whose qualifications are more that they know how to maintain government relationships than run an actual business. That said they can keep the school from getting shut down. Your English co workers will suck at English. If they don't and actually speak quite well, they will soon be leaving that job to get a more high paying job in the international trade industry which pays more. So you are left dealing with those who are a product of a terrible education system, can read and write alot of great english but can't communicate fluently enough for your impatient self rightious western entitled attitude. So you freak out when they give you a days notice that your class that is normal at 5:30 has been moved to 5, just for this week.
-Here is a solution learn Chinese: You will have a much better time in China. You will realize how their culture works and you and your co workers can laugh and talk about how a guy like Turnoi shows up and starts behaving like a helpless baby. Help me put money on my phone, I can't find my apartment, can you translate my conversation with this girl I met in the bar into Chinese, can you help me get a bank account I will never use because I will spend all my money at the bar, can you tell the noodle shop guy I'm not paying for these noodles after I saw the condition of his bathroom I refuse to pay 8 rmb to this struggling Chinese business owner whose bathroom is not that bad just that the toilet is a hole in the ground but I am a baby from the American midwest and this is my first time leaving my moms basement.
-Final words: Don't accept low paying jobs. If all you idiots out there demand atleast 10,000 and stop undercutting each other because you think its hard to find a job in China, then maybe everyone can have a better China experience. Stop using these teacher boards to slam schools because you got drunk and were late for work so they fired you.
-Use these teachers boards to coordinate standards of practice. What is the right amount of pay in China or in this specific city? Let's help each other negotiate for these jobs and get more out of our contracts.
Well not me I have a teaching degree now and am no longer in this rat race, but good luck suckers.
- ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Tim -- 2014-03-08
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- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Ahmed Bayoumy -- 2014-03-15
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- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- adam hernandez -- 2018-03-29
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- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- adam hernandez -- 2018-03-29
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Maria -- 2018-03-29
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- William -- 2018-07-09
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Benie -- 2018-11-11
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- William -- 2018-07-09
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- FTinPRC -- 2017-02-20
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Maria -- 2018-03-29
- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- Robert -- 2017-02-04
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- Re: ABIE American Baby International English, Liaoyang Center -- adam hernandez -- 2018-03-29
- Re ABIE American Baby International English -- Ahmed Bayoumy -- 2016-11-15
- Re ABIE American Baby International English -- Regional manager -- 2015-06-28