I have met some people who studied history who I consider to have excellent English skills. Some history teachers I've met ( including my own in high school ) were also great at English, it was better than a lot of English teachers IMO.

I also think many genuine degrees from the UK in any discipline are much better than some of the crap English degrees people get in Asia and Africa ( sorry Turnoi, I know there are some very good English speakers in Africa, Kenya for instance )

Beth is right though, there are a lot of people holding degrees that have no relevance to language or teaching whatsoever who work in ESL and other language teaching roles.

Well this is all very cosy like but it was only the other day when you and Turnoi were virtually yelling RUBBISH! RUBBISH !RUBBISH! English Literature is not a qualification for teaching ESL. Now you are saying "Beth is right though"

ESL is now brimming with degreed FT's who can't speak English and know very little grammar. And I haven't forgotten that's been proved on this site. You personally as a native English speaker have the qualification to argue the toss about it. I certainly would not give credence to a second languager(artist licence) to argue out something which should be none of their business or concern. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Chinese children would be better off under the teaching skills and language knowledge of well-read degreeless FT's.