Your honest opinion means nothing, let's face the facts, they do have fees, so they are a business.

With all due respect, I could say the same about your opinion, but I will not.It is my right to disagree with you though, however much it annoys the TC lackeys who seem to roost on these boards.In germany, higher education is free,even for foreigners,so would you say education is a business in that country then?

Why are you even asking that person how much money they make? What does that have to do with this discussion?

In hindsight nothing to do with the discussion, but I was just a bit angered at his/her view of education is all about business, these DOS types I just wonder how much do they get paid for signing a contract with the devil?

All schools are a business, parents pay tax which pays for your public schools = fees = business. Richer parents pay for boarding school = business.

Fair enough you are talking about schools. But I do not see EF as a school, not at all.I think boarding schools are horrible places that segregate the sexes and only exist because of the rich.If I had my way I would close them down and turn them into shelters for the homeless, the same way I would force churches to open their doors to let the homeless sleep there.

The person's mind and mine work in a way you'l never be able to understand

Why? Because I refuse to subscribe to your capitalist vision for Education?I maintain that people like you, and the OP, would charge for the rays of the sun or water if you could get away with it.Remember that moss fellow at EF being unqualified and a former security guard....what does a security guard or shift supervisor know about teaching?

because we look at the bigger picture.

Are these the kind of phrases they drill in you at the monthly EF dos meetings. I can almost smell the fires of hell burning through the VDU as I read and respond....

I feel sorry for any student who has a teacher like you, because they can't reach their full potential if their teacher is narrow minded.

And I feel sorry for any students who end up being taught by EF doses who mostly do not have a background in Education or English at all, how can they reach their full potential then?

Seeth ya later, ace.