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The Truth - 2015-06-11
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Note that so many are attempting to discredit the posters, but no one is claiming that what is posted is false.
Yuncheng English Village could post and address the concerns of the dozen or so teachers, but instead they choose to have the message attacked.

Says it all, really.

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There is naught else to report, other than most were able to receive their pay this week and are leaving. Although, the usual Yuncheng English Village pay tricks occurred.

-Short pay
-Attempt to pay the month as though it were a holiday month
-Ignore the airfare/annual bonus
-Not mention the bonus to new teachers to see if they can trick them into not paying the bonus to them, or just plead ignorance. "Bonus? What bonus?".
-Game/test the new teachers to see what they can get away with, in terms of short paying, not paying, and various other tricks to not pay the teachers their contractually mandated full pay.

For those concluding a contract, when Yuncheng English Village asks you to come in and cancel your visa, DO NOT DO THIS. Demand all of your pay and your bonus first. DO NOT allow them to steamroll you into anything before you get your money.

Whilst your visa IS linked to the invite letter and that specific school, town, and agency/centre, you are NOT legally required to cancel it. The visa is yours and with it you may travel in China at leisure. You cannot work at another company on *that* visa, you must get a new one. You can, however, travel about China looking for work on that visa, and apply to another job and then get a new visa and new invite letter and transfer your FEC to the new company.

This requires a letter of reference from your previous employer in China.

Unfortunately Yuncheng English Village, and many employers in China, rarely, if ever, give out these letters in the education sector. Thus it is nearly impossible to get a job on the existing visa because Yuncheng EV won't sign for it out of spite as you went looking for another job in China 'on their visa'. They consider you property, but this attitude is also common throughout China. Future employers will contact Yuncheng EV for a reference, and Yuncheng English Village will simply refuse to reply. It's happened to nearly all teachers there since 2007.

Once you are not making them money, you cease to exist. Not even so much as 'Goodbye'.

So normally Yuncheng English Village teachers work there, leave, and do not return to China or even to the industry as they won't give you a reference. It is truly a black hole on your resume.

Often the reason people leave for a few months or year, then return. Cannot get work elsewhere in China without the letter that Yuncheng EV will not write.

Or people will relocate to another city in China and just apply from the beginning, perhaps even going to Hong Kong to 'reset' the visa process and apply from outside China. One would think that companies would want people to continue to work in China, but that is not how Chinese employers think.

Their response will at first be 'Ok, for which school?' and an hour later then this: 'I can not give you the reference' :-). Yes, with a smiley emoji. Nothing more - talk about 'not understanding business culture'...

If they do give one the letter, it will take almost one full calendar year to obtain it. They delay, constantly.

You are legally able to travel on that visa until it expires or is canceled, and the FEC is your possession and can be used to get a new job in China. Do not turn it in to Yuncheng EV.

You will have to get a NEW visa *if* you work at a new place, but you are able to live in China for some time as your visa is valid. If you have your FEC it is easier to transfer it to a new employer. Again, Yuncheng English Village will demand it, tell them no. Just another means of control and a way to enact revenge because they don't want you to go work someplace else.

(One major reason to hold the FEC is that it allows the foreigner to import one new auto without duties or taxes. Many teacher's FECs are used to do this by their company, without their consent or knowledge - it's a cash valuable document.)

Of course out of spite and maliciousness and control, Yuncheng English Village *will* cancel your visa in that act of revenge. Common in China, cannot be helped.

That will be many weeks or so later and meanwhile you may travel in China freely *as is your Right under Chinese law*.

When they ask, simply refuse and ignore their threats.

This assumes that you have your FEC, docs and passport, and they are not stored 'for safe keeping' at the company safe. If you do not have them, you can do nothing. Sorry.

More updates to follow in a few weeks.

As for us, we are acting upon our values and getting out of here. Does not make sense to stay in Yuncheng at Yuncheng English Village with all that is going on locally, nationally, in and international waters. We managed to get our full pay, and even still have our passport, documents and FEC.

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